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General DiscussionEvolution of Skill in DOTA

Evolution of Skill in DOTA in General Discussion
Crystal Meth & Crotch Rot

    Recently I've seen a few different people posting about how much more skillful players in Guardian / Archon / Whatever bracket appear to be these days.

    I just happened to stumble across an old Purge video from December 2015 that I think very nicely illustrates just how much the game has changed in the last 6 years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnaB58d7cX0&ab_channel=Purge

    A few points to consider:

    - This was a "Very High Skill" game probably roughly equivalent to Divine nowadays.
    - The Meta was very different back then with a much higher emphasis on farming than fighting.
    - Tri-laning was common, but only in high skill games. (I was 3k MMR back then and my teams almost never Tri-laned).

    Now, even considering those points, watch this game. (It's not necessary to watch entire game obviously, just watch a bit of laning and the first few team fights).

    I can't speak for Herald / Guardian games, but these days my Crusader / Archon / Legend games feel higher skill than this. (Perhaps not quite so much the Crusader average games lol).

    The warding is terrible, positioning is sloppy and map movements/farming efficiency feels bad. Look at how often players are in positions on the map that look super dangerous and don't get punished for it.

    Anyway a fun trip down memory lane, just looking at how much tighter and claustrophobic the river was back then makes me appreciate today's map a little more.

    nmidonmvala

      HIGHWAY TO THE COPIUM ZONE

      standin. Maxshiner

        Man everyone was so bad back then

        kowareta

          yeah leaderboard pos 4 player lastpicking dp and nuking all my farm is just pure evolution of russian subhumans on this video game

          so much skill involved around this game that 5 inferior braindead russians winning TI. just a proof how skill based dota 2 is =))

          kowareta

            yeah leaderboard pos 4 player lastpicking dp and nuking all my farm is just pure evolution of russian subhumans on this video game

            so much skill involved around this game that 5 inferior braindead russians winning TI. just a proof how skill based dota 2 is =))