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Suck my tiny curry dick

    I don’t know how to get out of lp. I can’t win the games. Please give me tips on how to win.

    THAT BITCH CAROLE BASKINS

      Apparently all you have to do is play with OP

      SayingPleaseHelps

        @Suck_My_Hairy_Indian_Penis OP mentioned some tragic background in an attempt to gain sympathy. I believe "no titties" might be too accurate. My condolences.

        I would recommend not getting to LP to begin with, but once you are there, try to keep up an appearance of caring about your teammates. You will prolly be the most reasonable one out there, so avoid conflicts and no one will double mid. Repeatedly ganking the allchat flamer like OP on the opposite team can be useful as well, can force an RQ into ez win.

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        Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

          While I don't agree with everything that OP says and personally don't coinsider her to be a 3k MMR player, I think you've gone a bit too far with all the things you've said @ SayingPleaseHelps

          There's a difference between being delusional and insulting someone. Me saying that I'm enjoying this basically meant that I'm kinda of enjoying how much you're trying to stick to your guns. While you might have a point for some things, you are guessing too much.

          Some things I've read, here, from you were cringe fest at best.

          You can't just say that someone is a bad person just because he's kinda of delusional Dota-Related.

          I think what's best is that everyone cuts OP some slack and let her climb her way out of 1k, which for sure she will, eventually.

          There's no need to be an asshole. if you actually read what OP wrote, she never said anything offensive, and everyone here just started acting like a fucking monkey(me included at start).

          As I said, while she might be wrong, you're sticking to your guns just as much as she does, which is pretty much pointless, because arguing with someone over the Internet is pathetic if it goes this far in my opinion.

          Suck my tiny curry dick

            We need to be assholes until op commits suicide or shows us titties.

            THAT BITCH CAROLE BASKINS

              ^ what the penis guy said

              Suck my tiny curry dick

                ^ what report guy said

                Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                  Lmao. What are you doing with your life kids.

                  W/e

                  I give up.

                  Suck my tiny curry dick

                    Screw off with your ham sandwich. Youre the type to wipe your ass with a ham sandwich and eat it.

                    SayingPleaseHelps

                      @ Vertoxity

                      she never said anything offensive
                      I'll just let it sit here for awhile. Just a little bit more. And a tad more again.

                      Don't disappoint me man, you have shown you are capable of both reading and learning beforehand.

                      She is not just being wrong, she is being wrong on the public platform, which means everyone and anyone who has an opinion on the matter can and should contribute to settle the matter in the most efficient manner. Based on how asinine and oft-repeated previously the original sentiment is I can't really blame some people for doing that by dismissing it with "shut up 1k tard".

                      I and some others did not do that. We offered genuine advice, some offered coaching and replay analysis, you went so far as to offer your second account to try the 3k area. And all that genuine engagement and good will was scoffed at, handwaved with the most narcissistic and blatantly obvious excuses (have you heard of a party DOTA player who has no voice comms on their PC(with those specs)) - that is unforgivable.

                      You can't just say that someone is a bad person just because he's kinda of delusional Dota-Related.
                      So you see how there were some extenuating circumstances. To show this level of disrespect to others' time and effort is a sign of an extremely entitled mentality and can not be encouraged. Would I be so insistent on seeing this through if I was not one of those who offered genuine advice - probably not. I would grumble on behalf of those whose time got wasted and not much more. But I was personaly involved in this affront. Is it enough to consider someone a bad person over? It's kinda close, but even then, I did not call OP a bad person or wished them ill. I merely mocked some demonstrable traits of their. To a ludicrous degree.

                      I'll be honest, after I predicted her behaviour in my second(?) post, I changed my mind after OP agreed to play on 3k account. I decided their aim to improve was genuine. That they would play a number of games on that account and face the obvious reality of not being good enough to jumpstart their improvement. But there were just 4 games and way more excuses. I got invested in this matter and got duped. That's why I'm more angry than I should be.

                      BTW, you keep refering to OP as "she", do you have any good reason to do so? Have you met them personally or on the reliably unmodified voice chat? It's the Internet after all.

                      So I will keep counting if you are okay with that. Keeps me entertained during my cold. And is kinda useful for practicing insult vocabulary. Speaking of which, can you specify what parts were the most cringy to you?

                      Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                        I'll get back to this answer when I finish my game. So maybe in an hour. :) Currently playing

                        THAT BITCH CAROLE BASKINS

                          i think the sandwhich guy is talking about the parts where you were kind of attacking OP a little persoanlly with the Uni shit especially.

                          '96 Neve Campbell

                            oh my god OP just tsay no he'll leave you alone for good lmaoo
                            I already said no several times.

                            SayingPleaseHelps

                              That was like the most innocent shit. You bring up your status as a uni student from a 5th tier specialisation as an argument for being capable of doing things and knowing what scientific methodology is - you get destroyed coz that's a non-sequitur. That's very light and straightforward in my mind.

                              SayingPleaseHelps

                                @OP
                                Then repeat it again, explicitly. Here is the setup. It's eleventh time, very appropriate to actually settle the matter here: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?

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                                Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                  @sayingplease helps

                                  Well if I'm not mistaken she actually didn't insult anyone first. If I am mistaken, I'd like to see that she insulted someone first. I'll gladly take that back if proven incorect.

                                  "She is not just being wrong, she is being wrong on the public platform, which means everyone and anyone who has an opinion on the matter can and should contribute to settle the matter in the most efficient manner. Based on how asinine and oft-repeated previously the original sentiment is I can't really blame some people for doing that by dismissing it with "shut up 1k tard".

                                  Having an opinion is fine, even insulting and doing what you and everyone else is doing is fine - this is her choice, she's chosen this. I'm just trying to understand what's the point of it, but allright, I guess it's just fun watching someone thinking he's 3k while failing to realise he/she has a long road until she/he gets there.

                                  This, is, for example not a good attidue to have:

                                  I do not need to prove that you are a 1k shitter, your MMR speaks for that.

                                  You're not a god compared to her, no one is. Calling someone 1k shitter for being 1k is purely retarded, based on some common sense, of course.

                                  To be quite fair, you weren't as harsh compared to the others, but it's just that you're apparently enjoying this a bit too much in my opinion, even tho you might be right.

                                  Can't deny it tho, I find it funny that she's trying to defend herself with this:

                                  "I am a university student who is currently working on getting a masters in but yeah I have a lack of capacity for learning and reading comprehension"

                                  Indeed, it's funny both sides, but despite her being a bit out of sync, you gotta give her credit for actually trying to defend her self most of the times polite-way.

                                  I've actually had a decent conversation with Violet, while, not being perfect to begin with, she's far from unpleasant person to talk to, and I think if you actually care about proving her wrong, maybe just a bit - change the aproach.

                                  I'll be honest, after I predicted her behaviour in my second(?) post, I changed my mind after OP agreed to play on 3k account. I decided their aim to improve was genuine. That they would play a number of games on that account and face the obvious reality of not being good enough to jumpstart their improvement. But there were just 4 games and way more excuses. I got invested in this matter and got duped. That's why I'm more angry than I should be.

                                  I agree. I've even said to her several times what you just wrote. But then again, her giving excuses and you calling her 1k shitter is not the same. Not to mention you ain't like much higher MMR than her, and it seems like you ain't playing ranked games at all.

                                  Even "Feachairu" guy told you:

                                  ^stop with the insults,try to discuss normally lol

                                  So you see how there were some extenuating circumstances. To show this level of disrespect to others' time and effort is a sign of an extremely entitled mentality and can not be encouraged. Would I be so insistent on seeing this through if I was not one of those who offered genuine advice - probably not. I would grumble on behalf of those whose time got wasted and not much more. But I was personaly involved in this affront. Is it enough to consider someone a bad person over? It's kinda close, but even then, I did not call OP a bad person or wished them ill. I merely mocked some demonstrable traits of their. To a ludicrous degree.

                                  Come on dude, you called her 1k shitter for no reason, and I'm lazy to go any futher, I'm sure I could find more insults.

                                  Yes, she does indeed have bad attidude, but it's really not a big deal - dota is a very hard game, and sometimes it'll make you say/act out of a normal loop.

                                  BTW, you keep refering to OP as "she", do you have any good reason to do so? Have you met them personally or on the reliably unmodified voice chat? It's the Internet after all.

                                  I trust her that she's a female. If she's not, I don't give a fuck. It's her choice to lie, it's not like I'll be making kids with her or i'll be meeting her IRL anyways. Who cares.

                                  SayingPleaseHelps

                                    Well, they did

                                    @garry the carry - for someone who tries to be up their own ass with all these psychology terms you aint half biased in choosing what you show lol. Best only show the worst games ive played in weeks amirite. Best try super hard to be a prick and try as hard as possible to conduct a witch hunt instead of looking at any other figures...
                                    insult you without provocation.

                                    There is also

                                    I only pray to the god that I don't meet woman like you in my life.

                                    Since you seem desperate to make this personal, an incel such as urself wont be meeting any women let alone one like me.

                                    (sry dunno how to embed quotes into quotes) this thing that goes way beyond the original statement in its derision. Or
                                    u do realize that new accounts have cap of 3500 meaning that if u calibrate u go back into hs anyway? well its not like u could ever do that yourself so i dont expect u to know lmao
                                    a cap that applies to your skill in ranked games, yet even ur turbo matches arent vhs :))
                                    While play for fun was not super cooperative before, nothing in his original statement warrants this overreaction. The best argument though would be OP's allchat logs, where in regards to unprovoked insults, when it rains it pours. And since they are from UK it rains all the time.

                                    While I will concede that

                                    I do not need to prove that you are a 1k shitter, your MMR speaks for that.
                                    is not the nicest way to bring attention to the fact that burden of proof lies on the OP, would you not agree that if any range is a shitter range it's 1k and therefore my statement is accurate if impolite? That was my aim throughout this thread after page 7 i think. To be accurate if impolite. And that's why it's so fun watching (reading?) them frothing at the mouth.

                                    Which brings us to "what I get out of it". Practicing my shitty english and a lot of fun. An I assure you, they get some kicks out of it as well, they would have disengaged long time ago if not.

                                    What I find concerning is this trust thing. I mean they misinterpreted you two times (that I noticed) in this very thread to pad their own ego, used ludicrous excuses for their bustling DOTA inventory and God-tier rig while claiming being poor and oppressed, and you still choose to trust em? I wish I was as nice as you.

                                    Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                      I'm not a nice guy at all, I'm just trying to be a decent human being. Kinda of trying to improve as a person, if you get me.

                                      Both times she offended me was because I offender her first, I'm deadly serious about that.

                                      Which brings us to "what I get out of it". Practicing my shitty english and a lot of fun. An I assure you, they get some kicks out of it as well, they would have disengaged long time ago if not.

                                      My friendly advice - find someone to talk to, that'll improve your REAL english. Talking is different and much more effisient way to learn. Your writting skills are fine, most likely better than mine, and I coinsider myself to be a decent english user all things coinsidered (not a native speaker to begin with)

                                      Also, this shouldn't be LOTS of fun for you - because it's just not healthy. Having fun because someone is delusional to some extent shouldn't be lots of fun.

                                      What I find concerning is this trust thing. I mean they misinterpreted you two times (that I noticed) in this very thread to pad their own ego, used ludicrous excuses for their bustling DOTA inventory and God-tier rig while claiming being poor and oppressed, and you still choose to trust em? I wish I was as nice as you.

                                      As I've said several times, I don't fucking care. I care about her or any other person from this forum the same amount. The only difference is going to be the way you treat me - that's how I'm gonna treat you too.

                                      She's been nice to me, I'll be nice to her. Same goes for everyone else. Then again, I'm not saying that I agree with everything that she said, hell, I'd be lying if telling the opposite, but the fact is that it's not okay to act like that, esp. not if there's a chance someone who's little insecure of himself is sitting behind some computer screen.

                                      Last thing I'd want is for someone to actually suicide or do something bad because I've somehow contributed the case.

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                                      SayingPleaseHelps

                                        While I appreciate the advice, I do know english quite well and the most lacking part is my vocabulary. Vocabulary practice works regardless of whether it is written or spoken. You may have noticed a lot of long-winded unnecessary stuff in what I say here, that could have been said in a clear and concise fashion (like this example). That is mostly deliberate for that specific goal.

                                        And if insulting you out of the blue for posting a funny Dunning-Kruger macro, putting words in your mouth and using your cautious approval of her skills to pad her own ego to heaven's high in a disingeniune fashion is nice in your book then, well, whatever floats your boat I guess.

                                        Smart move on denouncing being a "nice guy" there, btw.

                                        Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                          Well you're lucky I'm familiar with most of the words you're using, but I'm not afraid to Google what I don't know. :)

                                          Suck my tiny curry dick

                                            Why would you feel bad if someone committed suicide?

                                            THAT BITCH CAROLE BASKINS

                                              you guys got more time and patience to write those paragraphs than I do to read them. I pretty meach only read what the penis guy has to say at this point

                                              THAT BITCH CAROLE BASKINS

                                                i like how these guys who apparently dont speak english natively are saying stuff like 'non-sequitor' and im just sittin here talking about penis :/

                                                Suck my tiny curry dick

                                                  Trade dick pics?

                                                  eXcel

                                                    I’ve played about 10 games with OP now and I can ascert that they do not play at a 1k level. Their mechanical skills and game sense are way above that. There are moments in the mid game when they go missing a bit and need reorientation but for the most part their skills are around the 2.5-3k mark.

                                                    The biggest factor that holds them back is their mental weakness and tendency to flame anyone and everyone and when that (inevitably) happens, their focus is on arguing and not Dota.

                                                    @SayingPleaseHelps you are nuts for the amount of effort you’re going into to try and debunk someone and really need to chill for your own sanity.

                                                    Signed,
                                                    A 5.3k player who can validate trash tier mmr claims.

                                                    SayingPleaseHelps

                                                      @.eXceL Well, that is disappointing, are you off the reasonable people bandwagon now?

                                                      This guy went so far as to say that I am not 1k.
                                                      useful validation... who is 'this guy'?
                                                      (sry, can't embed quotes into quotes)

                                                      What exactly set of mechanical skills are we talking about? Because while I never played with OP (thank God), I have seen around 8 of their games (exactly the amount you played) and checked stats on a lot more, and I was not myself playig at the time, so hopefully I was focused enough to notice shit. You may want to check my posts about match ID 4111679232 and match ID 4126922571 for detailed documentation of some things I noticed.

                                                      OP consistently stands in place for long periods of time, does not cancel backswing, does not creep aggro, fails to use items they bought, does not treadswitch, fails to use skills they have, always defaults to farming their safelane jungle, never pushes the lane, is shitty at positioning, fails to keep a tp in their inventory a lot, skills before seeing the enemy, skills the wrong skills, never adjusts itembuilds to the situation and flames a lot.

                                                      And while the last three actually require active thought, the rest are things that just need mindless training and are automatic afterwards, i.e. mechanical skills. So I genuinely wonder what mechanical skills are we talking here? I have not seen their support games, just checked some stats, and there are still way too many deaths. But maybe they have great positioning while harassing in dual lanes or stack pull on CD like a mofo, although that is doubtful considering they have only 2 supports in their top 10.

                                                      Would you agree that a player with decent set of mechanical skills who fails to climb out of 1k due to whatever reasons like

                                                      mental weakness
                                                      (some defender you are) belongs in 1k? I'll bring a quote from another actually good player, so that you don't pull rank on me
                                                      Sure slacks is a meme who has 0 mechanics

                                                      But do you know what? Slacks compensates it all by ridiculously good teamfighting and teamplay

                                                      There's rarely a player who can boost his entire team's morale and on top of that cooordinate them around in a teamfight.

                                                      Slacks can make his team win the game for him, he earned his mmr.

                                                      A lot of people think mmr has to be earned by how the pros do it, but look at me like 2 years ago when i hit 5k, i did it with jungle SK with 1 build.

                                                      All that matters is that you destroy the enemy ancient, no matter what method - if you can't do that then you belong to your bracket.

                                                      Nothing personal against you on this one, you are the most victimized party in this whole affair, I just hate shitty arguments.

                                                      Yami Yugi

                                                        dafuq did I just read o_O

                                                        Yami Yugi

                                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4072778497

                                                          OP consistently stands in place for long periods of time, does not cancel backswing, does not creep aggro, fails to use items they bought, does not treadswitch, fails to use skills they have, always defaults to farming their safelane jungle, never pushes the lane, is shitty at positioning, fails to keep a tp in their inventory a lot, skills before seeing the enemy, skills the wrong skills, never adjusts itembuilds to the situation and flames a lot.

                                                          All those mistakes I have, you mention it dude lols, still I have those games and I am 3k player, doesnt proof anything at all though

                                                          Yami Yugi

                                                            on the second thought, I never flames since Dota1 times when someone ended up try to find me for a brawl. ups

                                                            eXcel

                                                              @SayingPleaseHelps, my boy I don’t disagree with you at all, but you’re exerting way too much energy into this for something that is an irrelevant side quest in the game that is your life. Just chill and let bads be bads if it doesn’t affect you?

                                                              My point is that it is *exactly* OP’s attitude toward the game that keeps them where they are. As Espada pointed out, many 3k don’t backswing cancel and move between attacks etc for max efficiency. Heck, there are 5ks that don’t do it well. You can probably list 3-4 mistakes I make regularly too if you watch my games back.

                                                              Anyway, I actually took the time to play with OP and there were cases where they genuinely played way above 1k. You can’t argue with that. FWIW; they are prone to huge swings between games and sometimes played trash too. Consistency is important.

                                                              varjager

                                                                Anyone whos above their bracket in skill should be able to climb. I've always been around 2,5k but i had a bad losing streak and got down to around 1,9k and basically stopped playing.
                                                                When the new mmr system came i started playing again and calibrated at crusader 3 and now im archon 5.
                                                                Nowdays i play mostly unranked and only play ranked when im really up to it.

                                                                EDIT.

                                                                I only play solo queue, no party.
                                                                Maybe im not the best example but i did regain the mmr i lost and some more on top of that.

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                                                                Lemonide

                                                                  i never touch the 3k, cause from the 1st time i played i get 800mmr. After several month i always play solo rank (my party still calibrated btw xD) i've reach 1.4k mmr. Is 3k mmr is fun?

                                                                  eXcel

                                                                    @var, my point being OP can climb easily but for their mental fragility and tendency to flame everyone in game as highlighted multiple times in this thread already.

                                                                    I’ve played stacks with them too where they literally flame my friends over mild disagreements and expend their energy in that instead of focusing on the game.

                                                                    Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                                                      Honestly I don't coinsider her to be much higher than 2000 mmr. I've seen players in low 3k range, they are on average at least 30-40% better than her.

                                                                      @Sayingplease is right about her playing pretty much on average like a high 1k or low 2k player.

                                                                      Playing party and playing solo is also not the same. Judging someone's skill based on how he did when he had A MK that's 5k mmr is not fair either.

                                                                      Her laning aspects might be above 1k, but her decison making in general, when things get tough is pretty much 1k for now.

                                                                      I literally don't agree that she's 3k mmr, because that would be an insult for any 3k mmr player.

                                                                      Her general game knowledge is not 3k to begin with, let alone laning. Many Dota Veterans are stuck in 3-3.5k MMR, and regardless of them not being super good at this game, 3k MMR is still pretty damn good MMR all things coinsidered, esp. analytically talking.

                                                                      Ranked-wise 3k should be average MMR in my opinon, and with all due respect to her and you, I disagree that she's 3k mmr.

                                                                      I'll have to say one more time that being good at party doesn't mean you are 3k mmr.

                                                                      I've played many times with 5ks/6ks in party and I was mid. Sometimes I even won mid lanes against them, despite the fact having much lower MMR. That doesn't prove anything.

                                                                      2 years ago I calibrated 4.5k and climbed to 4.7k on my smurf, despite the fact I was 3.4k on my main. Still didn't make me a 4k player backthen.

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                                                                      SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                        @.eXceL So I watched Match ID 4134277212.

                                                                        OP is Antimage on Dire there and at the game start they get one set of regen against 5 ranged enemy comp, while getting quelling in base. Right away they fail to aggro enemy creeps onto their ranged or autoattack deny while silencer catches the enemy ranged with Q harass, so the lane pushes.
                                                                        They go 2-1-1, but hit the enemy solo laning phoenix literally ZERO times in first 5 minutes, and the phoenix is playing super confident, sitting right next to creeps to minimize projectile travel time. Zero attacks on phoenix.
                                                                        Their camerawork is atrocious, centered a bit higher of themselves for the majority of the time so that they can barely see phoenix and definitely have no chance of reaction dodging the Fire Spirits. They buy PT and keep em on agi all the time in a harass-heavy lane.
                                                                        The first hit they land on Phoenix is at 9:10 when they go for a kill. By that time OP has maxed Mana Break. After failing to get a kill, OP goes for some last hits with 15% HP left while phoenix supposedly escapes with Icarus Dive. Except phoenix finishes the dive, lands fire spirits and gets a kill. There was a roaming mirana rotating and landing lvl 1 arrow, but OP had 6 seconds CD on their blink, so they would have died even without that.

                                                                        At 14 minutes OP gets ganked and eats an arrow under tower. I have no idea what the enemy was going for, coz there is nowhere near enough DMG for a kill. However, the OP blinks after the phoenix, who has not used ult yet and hands them a kill on a platter.
                                                                        After the respawn OP goes to their favourite place - the own safelane jungle. The opposition is showing pushing top tower in that moment and there is a perfectly safe creepwave under the offlane T2, but who can resist the urge of taking hard camp near your base, right?

                                                                        The enemy keep pushing top and showed at least 4 heroes there, so when OP sees enemy grimstroke mindlessly moving to join them OP takes a chance to engage them which results in a kill. Could have waited for the enemy to walk the stairs instead of burning a blink for no reason, but that is an example of a good decision. The enemy continues their push with the T2 mid, so the OP moves to their offlane jungle. That's 4 minutes of all of the enemy team showing top and at no point is antimage pushing any lane.

                                                                        OP contemplates joining the fight near their shrine, but decides to walk towards secret shop to finish his bfury, yet lingers around bot for some reason when orchid clikz showed moving there, and gets saved by a pudge hook, surviving on 7 hp. Still agi treads mind you. OP will end with 2 PT uses at the end of the game.

                                                                        At around 18:30 enemy show again trying to push bot T2. Your team has 0 towers killed by that point. OP finally goes to the opposite of the enemy sid of the map, but not really in a hurry. Instead of pushing the lane super hard and dealing as much tower DMG as possilble and running, they calmly walk top and even find time to farm a hard camp in the meantime. They overstay their welcome by staying there for like 15 seconds after enemy withdrawal from bot and clinkz expectedly kills the OP.

                                                                        After the respawn OP tps to the bot shrine and keeps on jungling. Clinkz is showing top, so not going top is a smart move. What is not a smart move is going for a prowler camp, losing 60% of HP to it and getting entangled, setting up for an arrow into death to a solo roaming mirana. They then use their favorite move - allchat asking to report pudge, who is their (and yours) partymate. She continues to exclaim that pudge has shit for brains and wonders how can he screw that up, while I'm left wondering how do you play 95 games of antimage and do not realise that tanking prowlers with just bfury treads (on agi still) is a bad idea. Imagine you were supporting this kind of horrible and toxic player. How long would you continue caring about winning the game?

                                                                        The enemy groups to push bot again and pudge chooses the good position (coz he has shit for brains) to hook clinkz, ending that. With that push thwarted OP overstays their welcome at top again, but luckily for them rotating Grimstroke and Necrophos misexecute the gank horribly and OP survives. OP continues to play top, despite at least two enemies just rotating there and all of the enemy team missing and barely survives another engage due to clinkz being slow to the party (or mirana/grimstroke being too trigger-happy depending). By this time OP has added a yasha to their inventory (in the 6 minutes since finishin bfury), putting their gold generation with bfury on par with gold generation before completing it.

                                                                        After regening, OP tps to the base entrance to get to the creepwave three seconds faster and this is the first time they end up without tp in this game. At this point your team is kinda cornered into your base with all enemy towers standing at 25 minutes into the game, so OP decides to farm their safe jungle some more on their way to pushing out top. Enemy Clinkz shows on bot, then all their team shows on bot, insinstent on taking your last outer tower, so OP abandons pushing the top lane in favor of returning to their own top jungle. As an antimage with bfury when all enemy towers are standing. The enemy finally decide to commit for a lengthy siege and you end up trading the towers a minute and a half later. Could have been a 2 for 1 in your favor.

                                                                        OP then returns to their fucking safe jungle while your team chases all of the enemies from bot to mid and dies once again to Prowler armor reduction+obvious Clinkz rotation. Clinkz even silences and nullifies the Ancient Prowler for some reason, but OP's hesitation and prowler armor reduction result in them dying anyways. How embarassing it must be to die to as an Antimage to a Clinkz who misses both orchid and nullifier.

                                                                        After respawning OP tps to their top shrine and, while the top is kinda pushed and is ripe for some additional momentum, continues farming their safe jungle. Which is entirely not safe because the wards show enemy team collapsing on the OP. So they die again. 29 seconds after respawning. And decides to chastise the enemy for tryharding in allchat.

                                                                        After respawning OP tps to their top shrine and chooses to farm the same three fucking camps again, despite top creepwave being one blink away and enemies showing next to your shrine.

                                                                        OP finally finishes Manta (a 4800 gold item) at 30:20, clearly decelerating their farm rate from treads bfury (4400+1450) at 17 minutes. On their way to the enemy secret shop they make sure to not push the top creepwave, because lane creeps are ugly or smth I guess.

                                                                        Enemies rosh and move top, forcing OP to move to Dire bot jungle (sensing the pattern here). Clinkz decides to rotate bot for some reason though, so the enemy necro gets caught out of position, so OP joins on the beatdown, although they were not needed and could push a lane instead. They return to their safe jungle afterwards (because of course). They blink agressively on phoenix for some reason and barely survives because Grimstroke wasted Ink Swell for MS earlier. Both phoenix and Grimstroke follow the necro example by chasing too hard and die, making the turnaround official.

                                                                        I won't mention any more tps from base to a shrine, it's like a modus operandi at this point. Tp to jungle, farm three camps, get ganked, lose half hp or die, walk base for regen, repeat. Enemies take a 3v5 fight and lose three and aegis. OP does a couple of rightclicks and an ulty there and subsequently runs around for half a minute in apparent excitement instead of pushing anything.

                                                                        At 34:42 OP jumps on full mana necro, does not use manta, rightclicks once and ulties. Checking enemy mana while playing antimage? Nope. As a matter of fact OP never checks any enemy hero, friendly hero, or a piece of the map they are not in outside of when dead (which is a lot).

                                                                        While farming jungle (surprise surprise) OP walks into a Clinkz and randomly dies. Clinkz made a huge mistake by silencing manta carrier first, then nullifying, giving OP third of a second to dispel the silence, but I can't really blame OP for not executing this one. OP then proceeds to exclaim "fun" in allchat as if they see clinkz for the first time.

                                                                        After respawning OP watches the mid rax fall, running aimlessly back and forth and proceeds to their safe jungle.

                                                                        At 36 minutes into the game where an antimage got 57 cs at 10 and 17 mins bfury, the second enemies tower, safelane T1 dies to creeps. Antimage did 0 damage to it.

                                                                        OP finishes aghs as their third item on an antimage at 37 mins. A decent choice for this game, although linkens would have been superior.

                                                                        Pudge keeps winning the game for you by landing another clinkz hook and you win a fight due to phoenix failing to dispel global with lotus for like 3 seconds. OP tps in to participate in this fight which turns out super well. I would probably push more and only tp after the hook lands instead of outright jumping in, since I would not expect the enemy to commit without their necro who is showing top.
                                                                        After that fight you(?) chastise enemy for tryharding in allchat (!?!??!). Like dafuq.

                                                                        After pushing down bot T2 and backdooring the mid T1 OP kills a grimstroke, transitioning into more jungle farm, and walks into enemy jungle with DD(when bot creepwave is under your base btw), full commits and dies despite having blink ready all the time. Phoenix does not use his lotus again though and you win the fight taking a Clinkz dieback in the process.

                                                                        OP buys Linkens in addition to Aghs, which is okay considering enemies have Grimstroke with Necro and clinkz orchid+nullifier, but an offensive item would have been better in my mind. Can't always rely on phoenix fudging his items.

                                                                        At 45 minutes OP dies again solo comminting against full HP Clinkz and zero hits supernova while having blink ready and not being silenced.

                                                                        Having bfury and linkens OP still continues to visit the base to regen after some arduous jungle farming.

                                                                        The game is basically won at this point, enemy clinkz desperately tries to backdoor T4's but backdoor protection is too strong.
                                                                        on the victory screen you (what's with that, huh?) trashtalk the opposition calling them bad and stuff, like really, wtf.

                                                                        The two consistently decent things in the OP's gameplay is the fact that they get good lasthits and some denies when presented with a free or weakly contested lane (around 60 at 10, they do not try to hinder their lane opponent one bit during that though) and having a tp in their inventory all the time which is different from the other games I saw, but I'm happy to concede this point anyways. That's two things OP does on higher than 1k level, 60 at 10 is basically what you can expect in a free lane at 3k.

                                                                        Am I missing something? What other mechanics do they possess to qualify them above 1k? What game sense? This game was a total disaster of an antimage getting a good start by a fluke and proceeding to squander it all by falling back to the horrible habit of farming jungle, which I expect is reinforced by thousands of games. OP has more games than I do ffs. They managed to get 59 cs by 10, which is decent, but nowhere near enough to qualify them even for 2k+. And from what I saw it is the only thing they learned over 3000+ games. This is not mockery, at least not entirely. I genuinely want to know what set of mechanics qualifies OP to 3k level in your mind.

                                                                        Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                                                          @Sayingplshelps

                                                                          Would you actually take some time to do the same for me? I'm deadly curious if you could objectivly analyse my replay and judge my level of playing on this smurf?

                                                                          Let's take this game as an example:

                                                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4134195333

                                                                          4134195333

                                                                          Not trying to actually poke you or anyhing simiular, I'm just curious. Let's see how much MMR would you give me?

                                                                          SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                            @.eXceL

                                                                            @SayingPleaseHelps, my boy I don’t disagree with you at all, but you’re exerting way too much energy into this for something that is an irrelevant side quest in the game that is your life. Just chill and let bads be bads if it doesn’t affect you?
                                                                            What a way to be condescending while presenting a shitty argument. I guess I confused your reasonableness for Cookie's.

                                                                            How do you manage to put this

                                                                            Consistency is important
                                                                            at the end of this
                                                                            My point is that it is *exactly* OP’s attitude toward the game that keeps them where they are. As Espada pointed out, many 3k don’t backswing cancel and move between attacks etc for max efficiency. Heck, there are 5ks that don’t do it well. You can probably list 3-4 mistakes I make regularly too if you watch my games back.
                                                                            is fucking beyond me. Everyone makes mistakes in dota, but their combined performance over time carries them to where they are. Slacks got to 5k by being superb at moralebuilding and teamfight execution, Cookie admitted right he got to 5k by abusing certain build. Op got to 1k by being decent at csing in lane and garbage at everything else. So they demonstrated they are capable of performing one thing on 3k level. Does not make them 3k or does not make them capable to climb. It seems to me that their habit of jungling will make 2k barrier impenetrable if they ever get there. Yes, MMR is designed around consistenly performin on an overall level comparable to your peers. Specifics may vary but the end result is the same. You say it yourself ffs, OP is incapable of consistently performing
                                                                            sometimes played trash too

                                                                            Anyway, I actually took the time to play with OP and there were cases where they genuinely played way above 1k. You can’t argue with that. FWIW
                                                                            And I actually took the time to watch some replays of their games, and there are two thing that they do at above 1k level in party games, and one - in solo games. The rest is garbage. Did you watch replays of your games with them? To be fully focused on evaluation instead of mixing it inbetween actually playing games? I did, you can't argue with that.

                                                                            And come on,

                                                                            you are nuts for the amount of effort you’re going into to try and debunk someone and really need to chill for your own sanity
                                                                            flaming me for tryharding in this thread just like you flame opponents for tryharding in your games? Not cool, man, neither of those.

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                                                                            '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                              ^ Literally everything you post critiquing me is a result of defensive, cautious play because they had a all ranged, agro heavy lineup which dominated the early game. We just beat that party the game before and they were clearly out to tryhard and win that game with heavy ganks and pushing through mid. Why are you complaining about me farming jungles and having a slow build-up from bfury to manta when its obvious that my space was incredibly restricted by the rolling ganks from clinkz and moonlight shadow. I had no way of saving myself from enemy ganks and frankly the pudge was poor until the mid game. We lost the lane phase horribly and I was solo in lane for most of the start of the game against a phoenix and still got decent cs. The vast majority of this criticism is relatively baseless nitpicking. The fact that we turned that game should be more than enough to demonstrate the fact that I am not a 1k. You really think a 1k player does ok in lane solo and creates enough farm and kills for themselves to turn the game in the high skill bracket? Are you out of your mind??

                                                                              How embarassing it must be to die to as an Antimage to a Clinkz who misses both orchid and nullifier.
                                                                              To be honest I died because i didnt even realise he fucking missed his shit. I only realised i wasnt slienced when I was practically dead. What are the actual odds that he misses? It seems stupid in hindsight but when you are actually playing the game these things arent always noticeable.

                                                                              Honestly everything you have wrote is stuff that is obvious to the spectator but far less obvious ingame. If I had the willpower and cared enough then I would watch some of your games and I am sure you make a similar number of errors.

                                                                              At 34:42 OP jumps on full mana necro, does not use manta, rightclicks once and ulties. Checking enemy mana while playing antimage? Nope. As a matter of fact OP never checks any enemy hero, friendly hero, or a piece of the map they are not in outside of when dead (which is a lot).
                                                                              This is just untrue. Whilst it is sometimes hard to check for enemy mana in the thick of a fight I usually make a habit of checking how much mana enemies have no matter what hero I am playing.

                                                                              giving OP third of a second to dispel the silence
                                                                              Yes cause you would have dispelled that wouldnt have you

                                                                              After that fight you(?) chastise enemy for tryharding in allchat (!?!??!). Like dafuq.
                                                                              Perhaps you would notice that the divine 3 was talking more shit this whole game than I was... The enemy was trying VERY HARD due to the loss we gave them the previous game and we made a point about joking about it. Big fucking deal.

                                                                              At 45 minutes OP dies again solo comminting against full HP Clinkz and zero hits supernova while having blink ready and not being silenced.
                                                                              This was an error that stemmed from believing the clinkz to be dead. There were several buybacks on their team which I should have noticed but I was listening to music which drowned out the noise of the game (This was an unranked game at 1am by the way I wasnt even trying very hard). And yes you could say that is a fucking excuse but its also the truth so whatever.

                                                                              The game is basically won at this point, enemy clinkz desperately tries to backdoor T4's but backdoor protection is too strong.
                                                                              on the victory screen you (what's with that, huh?) trashtalk the opposition calling them bad and stuff, like really, wtf.
                                                                              Not really. I quote the lyrics to Linkin Park's 'In The End' which is a pretty common running gag in dota when you beat a team who are clearly trying hard to win.

                                                                              The two consistently decent things in the OP's gameplay is the fact that they get good lasthits and some denies when presented with a free or weakly contested lane (around 60 at 10, they do not try to hinder their lane opponent one bit during that though) and having a tp in their inventory all the time which is different from the other games I saw, but I'm happy to concede this point anyways. That's two things OP does on higher than 1k level, 60 at 10 is basically what you can expect in a free lane at 3k.

                                                                              Am I missing something? What other mechanics do they possess to qualify them above 1k? What game sense? This game was a total disaster of an antimage getting a good start by a fluke and proceeding to squander it all by falling back to the horrible habit of farming jungle, which I expect is reinforced by thousands of games. OP has more games than I do ffs. They managed to get 59 cs by 10, which is decent, but nowhere near enough to qualify them even for 2k+. And from what I saw it is the only thing they learned over 3000+ games. This is not mockery, at least not entirely. I genuinely want to know what set of mechanics qualifies OP to 3k level in your mind

                                                                              Why are you under the illusion that I had a free lane? A solo lane as an anti-mage vs a reasonable phoenix is not a free lane. Farming the jungle is basically a core part of your mid game as an anti-mage with battle fury ESPECIALLY when the other team has strong push. You really think I would get away with farming the lanes vs a clinkz? At least if I am in the jungle I fall off the other teams radar.

                                                                              I am willing to accept that some of what you said about mechanics, positioning and farming patterns is true but at the end of the day your argument revolves around me being 1k. Everything you say is stuff that seperates 3k players from the likes of 4/5k players. 1k players dont understand basic stuff like how to last hit, map awareness and hotkeys. Typical 1k players auto-attack creeps, do not give a thought to where the enemy might be at any time, and will try to farm dead lanes and push into the enemy jungle with 0 vision even if they are losing. Please stop trying to pretend like 1k players should be checking enemy mana/hp before engaging and really thinking hard about where they are farming because all of this stuff is beyond the level of a true 1k shitter. If you really want to see what a 1k player plays like instead of watching me go watch some of the people i get matched with/against.

                                                                              A good example for me is the last sniper game I played https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4134177528 It was a relatively subpar performance from me and I was on autopilot for most of the game but what really struck me was how my team became obsessed with the toplane which was a dead lane with a techies and a silencer in it amongst others. I rotated to this lane once (or twice i cant really remember) and was killed both times and quickly identified that this was a trap lane with a techies and others so decided to avoid it. However my teammates seemed to become fixated on pushing this lane to the tower over and over and dying to the techies to the point where I decided to sit behind the tower and destroy it from range in order to stop my team from feeding. I would suggest watching the shadow fiend and the silencer in particular this game because they are very miidle of the road for the 1k bracket. The venomancer is a good example of someone who absolutely plays like a 1k and deserves the bracket. If you are implying that I have a similar skill level to these people then you are being frankly absurd tbh.

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                                                                              play for fun

                                                                                i dont even read the posts here anymore

                                                                                SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                  @ Vertoxity

                                                                                  Match ID 4134195333. A slark game, my favourite. You kinda stomped though, which makes spotting mistakes harder and means there were probably fewer of them.

                                                                                  You are on Radiant. Your start looks like an autopilot one. No salve (that leads to your death at around 6 mins.), quelling from the base, skilling pounce before seeing enemy. Imagine they would have void+1 offlane. You'd lose whole first wave. On the other hand, if you can predict that they would have enigma solo offlane I would ask silencer to come bot for fb and get oov right away. Enigma just dies to oov+passive+1 extra slow or stun if she goes eidolons lvl 1, can't lane at all.

                                                                                  Right off the bat you fail to scout for range first block, subpar performance man. The only excuse I will buy here is you expected enigma to deny it, at which point look an the previous paragraph. This misses the equilibrium right away, making judging your creep aggro game impossible.

                                                                                  You commit for eidolons after they split, which is a good farm boost, but you could have made one more step to cancel enigma's clarity. She has another one, so it's not that bad, but still. You go treads before aquila. You are probably not gonna push the tower against enigma any time soon, but you don't really need ms either and you do not treads switch as slark. Slark is like the second best after WK for treads switching impact.

                                                                                  You try to keep the creeps out of tower range since warlock pulled, but fail. The lane pushes again due to that.
                                                                                  You rotate for some quick jungle camps when WR tries to gank you, but you end up low on HP, since you are not 6 yet. (remember the salve thing?) Half a minute later that leads to your death. Before level 6. You rage buyback, forgetting that rage buybacks got nerfed hard recently.

                                                                                  You take a fight well enough, hiding from LOS in trees to get MS and regen.
                                                                                  You let warlock take bot after getting pt+aquila and slowly rotate top. You push out the midlane that clinkz left on your way through the jungle. If you follow it up with pressuring top tower that is superb.
                                                                                  You don't. You get low on both HP and mana and have no ferried regen right as the enemy starts a stupid fight top. You are regening in the base so you lose an ultra kill opportunity that would have given you sb+pt+aquila at 12 mins.

                                                                                  You tp bot to push the lane that is already pushed instead of joining your team top and taking the tower. Enemy void is lvl 5 at this point, enigma is the only threat.

                                                                                  You continue pushing out bot and taking some jungle camps inbetween.
                                                                                  You finish SB at 15:30 and immediately try to capitalise by going on low HP void mid, but you pounce before his time walk and lose the kill.
                                                                                  You abuse the fact lion can't ground target his stun and get a lion instead.
                                                                                  You keep playing topside with SB and get a lion kill, but you have no tp and were't spamming clarities to keep your mana topped off so you die due to lack of mana.
                                                                                  You return top to take T2 and push out lanes while farming jungle. Void comes to defend and you leave top for some reason. You have twice his networth at this point, but you fail to check his inventory to confirm that you can bully him out of the game.
                                                                                  You finish orchid at 22:25, a superb choice for the enemy lineup and capitalise right away with consecutive kills on Enigma, WR and Void. The game is basically won at this point.
                                                                                  You get a basher, but do not go for rosh. Inexperience on slark may be? Overconfidence? Would have allowed you to brute force a victory right away.
                                                                                  You end the game at 30 mins with 12:2:3 score, both deaths being avoidable. Outside of aquila/pt order you got your items super right. You moved to playing topside early enough and were not deterred by a death. You capitalised on your item timings really well. Your starting items and skills were questionable, there was not enough agression against a weak lane. You ended with the same cs as OP ends up with in weakly contested lanes (59/8 by 10). Very weak deny numbers. No treads switching or noticeable creep aggro use. Consistent tree cutting with quelling, I do not do that myself yet, so I can not attest to how appropriate the trees you cut were and can only assume it was good. You do not check patch notes for rage buyback nerfs or check enemy levels and inventories for how hard you can pound them.

                                                                                  I would say there were more good than bad things about your game. It's hard to predict how you would perform with this gameplay in a truly competitive rating. I mean enigma blocked the wave to let ranged through and did not deny it.
                                                                                  Overall I would judge your laning in this game at around 2,5k, your map movements and situational awareness at around 4k, your understanding of slark's game plan in relation to the enemy comp and capitalisation on timings at around "too high to accurately pinpoint for my noob self' to arrive to an average of about 4,2-4,3k. One game is not enough though to establish anything convincingy.

                                                                                  Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                                                                                    I really enjoyed the way you discribed things. Also I'll have to say everything you mentioned was correct and 100% legit.

                                                                                    Thanks for the time you took to write this down. I really enjoyed reading it, once again.

                                                                                    It's well known my weakest link is laning. ^^

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                                                                                    SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                      @parmaviolets More excuses, more excuses, more excuses, oh, some more evidence you are incapable of reading comprehension:

                                                                                      Perhaps you would notice that the divine 3 was talking more shit this whole game than I was... The enemy was trying VERY HARD due to the loss we gave them the previous game and we made a point about joking about it. Big fucking deal.
                                                                                      If you were paying attention you would have noticed the
                                                                                      @.eXceL
                                                                                      which meant the post is adressed to .eXceL and when I say "you" in it I refer to him. I use "OP" or "they" to refer to you. Also trying hard while putting solo phoenix against am? Tell me more.
                                                                                      Some more excuses, misinterpreting my words/can't read again:
                                                                                      Yes cause you would have dispelled that wouldnt have you
                                                                                      I explicitly stated that
                                                                                      giving OP third of a second to dispel the silence, but I can't really blame OP for not executing this one
                                                                                      . Maybe vision is the problem here, I don't know, do you wear glasses or smth?

                                                                                      More excuses, more excuses, oh, here's a gem:

                                                                                      Why are you under the illusion that I had a free lane? A solo lane as an anti-mage vs a reasonable phoenix is not a free lane.
                                                                                      Coz it is? Coz it was not solo? Coz you had support silencer harassing phoenix lvl1 and ignored that? Coz even without that am vs phoenix solo is a free lane? You just need to have your camera on him ready to dodge spirits and take advantage of your trading superiority early on, before spirits are high level. You then proceed to get multiple levels of spell shield and get only more regen and accelerate towards being the win condition for your team while laughing in his face about his puny attempts to do anything about the impending doom that will consume their team that he is incapable to do anything about. Do you know what double Ring of Health build does to harassing offlaners? Makes them leave the lane. And then you dodge the gank.

                                                                                      Speaking of dodging, what was the next number? 12: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?

                                                                                      eXcel

                                                                                        @SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                        To context your post, the game before that was this one https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4134241138 against the same stack. I beat them pretty hard and they flamed in all chat and post game so I questioned why they were doing that then told them to objectively learn instead of flaming the one random they queued with.

                                                                                        The very next game they put 3 in lane against me basically the whole time to try and shut me down and at 2am unranked it was try-hard as fuck and it rustled my jimmies because after the previous game I actually chatted with them post game and wished them all well and good luck in their next games etc. Pulling that one on me felt pretty lame so yes I wanted to flame them a bit as my own revenge.

                                                                                        Additionally, you are pointing out stuff that OP does that people still fuck up at much higher mmr levels. Out of interest, where do you sit? You clearly have a great analytical mind and I commend you for that but I really feel like you’re exerting way too much of your energy on a post that really means very little. I can’t comprehend why you’d do that.

                                                                                        Bosnian Blade

                                                                                          omg , can someone put me on track here, wtf is going on?

                                                                                          play for fun

                                                                                            unstoppable force (SayingPleaseHelps) vs immovable object (op)

                                                                                            kuci

                                                                                              top 10 anime battle

                                                                                              SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                                @.eXceL I guessed there was some previous history, but I would disagree with

                                                                                                The very next game they put 3 in lane against me basically the whole time to try and shut me down and at 2am unranked it was try-hard as fuck
                                                                                                the idea that having Phoenix solo vs an AM is anywhere close to tryharding is frankly ludicrous.

                                                                                                Additionally, you are pointing out stuff that OP does that people still fuck up at much higher mmr levels. Out of interest, where do you sit?

                                                                                                I sit at unranked currently (was 3650 or smth last season). And of course people fuck up those things at higher ranks. Sometimes I get caught without a tp, sometimes you get caught without a tp, sometimes C9 loses a pro game without a tp. The occurrence itself is irrelevant, it can happen to anyone. What matters is consistent performance over the entire multitude of aspects.
                                                                                                I sometimes get caught without tp, you rarely get caught without tp, pro teams never get caught without tp, that's why C9 (and EE in particular as their captain) became such a meme over that. OP fucks up everything - from basic positioning and basic awareness of her hero through itembuilds and skillbuilds to understanding the win condition and executing on it. The only decent thing they have is cs in an uncontested or weakly contested lane. And maybe keeping a tp thing, although other games I saw outside of this AM one were a testimony to the contrary.

                                                                                                Which rightfully puts them at 1k. There is no doubt they could climb, provided certain conditions are met, but those conditions include not tilting, not flaming, breaking the jungling habit, learning how to farm after 10 mins, learning how to farm under pressure, recognizing the team compositions, learning to attack move, learning to shift-queue, learning to check the map, learning to check enemy heroes (and own heroes), learning how to pressure opponents in a contested lane, learning how to utilise timings and god knows what else. Would you not agree that if even three of those were to transpire, the OP would be a very different DOTA player than the one we are discussing atm?

                                                                                                My evaluation of what I saw in their games suggests that the 1k rating they have is even inflated a bit, meaning other people of the same rating as OP are better at learning further DOTA, because they don't have 3000+ games of doing the one thing they know and following it up with some passive jungling. OP's attempt to improve will be utterly blocked by, no doubt, heavily ingrained habit of farming own jungle till the end that will weigh them down heavily until broken.

                                                                                                Also in that game while being massively behind you got tree dance cast range talent, but did not go for primal spring damage talent. Why not get it and just stall the game by cutting waves?

                                                                                                Marshall may have Mathered

                                                                                                  how many theses are gonna be in this thread?

                                                                                                  play for fun

                                                                                                    hopefully many more

                                                                                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                                      You keep fucking ignoring the actual logical points in favour of this same line about methodology which doesnt apply to a video game. Instead of focusing on what I am saying (that I am not 1k), and what everyone else is saying you choose to fixate yourself on me proving that I am 3k which is a practically impossible task unless u literally have the mmr to show it. I think the fact that my solo unranked games are high skill should be enough tbh.