Many of the talents are decent on their own, but godawful in comparison to the alternatives.
That said, Windranger's level 25 ministun is pure and utter bullshit.
DK +1.75s to stun and CK +2s max to stun (+1s on average) both suck at level 25. If they were at level 15, I would still not pick them.
I think actually that dk stun is a very powerful talent, it isn't as flashy as the strength alternative, but 5 seconds 0 cast point targetable stun, dude that's a better primal roar with eighth the cd
I don` t like Weaver 20lvl talents +2 attack to kill bugs and +0.5 minus armor on 20 lvl to weak. Pa has -4 armor on 15 or Ta -4 on 20. Also +1 geminete attack on 25 lvl comper to +200ms is week. 1+ hit on 25 lvl on every 3s not so strong.
The problem with DK stun at level 25 is that everyone will buy Linken's Sphere or BKB at that point and DK doesn't build Abyssal Blade for another single-targeting disable.
AoE shadow strike is pretty garbage. I don't even want to remember the time lvl 25 talent for qop was the choice between that and 70% spell lifesteal.
Oh boy can't wait for level 25 so that my 0.6 sec slow finally affects that gyro while he uses BKB.
+25 shrapnel damage....in what senario is that better than 40 attackspeed
Magic sniper build :D lmao
Huskar has the most garbage lvl 25 talents in the game.I mean one is a fucking support ability and the other is increased range.
Both talents useless for a Huskar since he doesn't need range(you jump on people) and he isn't a support.
Still my favorite hero though.
Definitely not the worst but I never liked either of troll's level 15 ones. 50 whirling axes dmg is just insignificant, especially without the cd talent, and +3 fervor stacks seems good but you will hit the speed cap with it and everything dies before you get that many stacks.
Oh boy can't wait for level 25 so that my 0.6 sec slow finally affects that gyro while he uses BKB.
lmfao both talents are not that good btw
i checked every single one you guys mentioned and so far i think weaver lv 20 is the worst of all
The weaver armor reduction is good I think. It’s a 50% increase, 10 total armor lost if it goes full duration. In a team fight that’s a big deal
The other weaver's talents are fucking broken, weaver with diffusal + mana burn + 1 germinate attack.
I don't understand tinkers talents
20: 100 damage
15: 40 Movement speed
Who plays right click tinker? Move speeds feels irrelevant on a hero who blink refreshes the whole game
"I guarantee it does more for u escaping than 10% lifesteal"
That feels.... wrong
But in all honesty, with BoT ur fast, with the Ms ur faster, if they get on u then ur most likely dead.
40 Ms can help u run away and kite someone who tries to go on u long enough to rearm blink or smth
oh yea, the 40ms on tinker is actually good, somehow it is good and maybe better than the lifesteal talent imo
Beastmaster's level 25 with bonus hawks. Yeah, vision is cool, but not when the game itself won't allow you to execute it properly. Valve, fix the hawks always being selected in 1 control group already.
And anyways, compared to a passive aoe mjollnir this kinda sucks ass.
weaver if you're not picking the extra attacks to kill you're doing it wrong, a carry will actively have to take care of of the swarm as well as any oncoming teamfight, good counter for any additional blinks too if you position swarm well.
Can I say that I see little reason to get void aoe chrono?
When you are the carry and can solo pick off, the backtrack is amazing late game
When you play more utility oriented and focus on your team damage to get the kills, bigger chrono can be problematic to keep your teammates in range to deal damage
but it makes it even harder for people to stick near each other enough to help but not enough to get caught together,cause it's damn big
Huskar needs a talent rework, wherein all 8 talents are replaced with a choice between -50 all attributes or insta-abandon for Huskar.
Shadow Demon's disruption duration increase at lvl 25 is pretty bad, since you just want to make illusions of somebody real quick usually that late in the game.
Who plays right click tinker?
its for if u wanna be able to hit buildings, u would have a backpack mom or something silly and then when you wiped the enemy team you would be able to hit towers with like 250 damage immediately with bots so not too shabby
but idk i never end up taking it
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What hero has the worst :
1. Lv 10 talent
2. Lv 15 talent
3. Lv 20 talent
4. Lv 25 talent
5. Talent