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General DiscussionSF mid Idea

SF mid Idea in General Discussion
Magicarp

    Currently the flavor of meta mids are good vs SF, SF usually goes to lane with wraith band, 2x branch and shared tangos. Buy a salve with the rune.

    This results in +11 dmg and 1 salve and 2 tango
    the problem here is popular mids like lina burning all your regen, who are less farm dependant and come to lane with more regen.

    So if you get quel which gives 7 dmg vs creeps for 200, 2 branches, you can still buy tangos and 2 salves or tangos 1 salve and 1 mango etc.

    It gives 9 dmg for last hitting and more starting regen to even out the advantage vs QOP, DP, flavor of mids.

    bad idea?

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    ywn

      Very

      chicken spook,,,,

        s t a t s
        r a n g e d h e r o

        Shou

          QUELLING SF GIGALUL
          basically the starting item u just purchase becomes irrelevant in just abt 1 min maybe less
          also I know a lot of mids r buying 2 nulls like qop, invoker, puck, etc even seen sniper with double wraith band.
          does sf do this now too?

          Emiya

            band build into aquilla and gives hp so i think it is better

            rain markcawat

              No

              also jdf8

                i tried it once a couple months ago because the numbers arent bad but it just felt wrong lmao and also i got wrecked #anectodalevidence

                wb ffx2 13 dam, 6/7 armor 60 hp(!), 6 ias which is like a 6-7% dps increase prolly less considering movement

                qb slipper circlet ff 14 dam 5/7 armor 40 hp, 5 ias

                im not on dota so idk if my gold maths right for qb

                also double band sf sounds pretty garbage the hero farms fast but idk im just a retiree xd

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                Shou

                  I mean I thought double null sounded dumb at first but people r doing it

                  also jdf8

                    sf can get a ton of value out of mregen and wants aquila raindrop which is imilar or more hp than 2x band but also gives almost 2 mana regen and makes him farm 1000x faster with the same sltos

                    Dire Wolf

                      QB is only damage vs creeps dude. You don't have to buy the entire wraith band, you could just go circlet and regen or circlet slippers.

                      Magicarp

                        nobody gets double bands, and quell is only 200 gold, can be sold for 100, so its 100 gold to get starting 7 dmg, so can go with more regen to lane, then obvisouly you buy standard Aquila bottle boots rain boys

                        Snu

                          The entire wraith band is nice because of the bonus damage (not just agility).
                          Also, after rune, if you have pooled tangos, a branch and faerie fire, you should be immediately backpacking a salve to yourself.

                          dead

                            lul

                            Cheap Laugh Guy

                              How about three Faerie 210g fire since it gives 6 dmg, can be used to heal every 5s, and actually deals the damage to heroes instead of just creeps?

                              rain markcawat

                                rofl

                                Shou

                                  nobody gets double bands

                                  sniper and riki (looking at the guides riki only does this when behind)

                                  Bill Cutting

                                    Every just tries to shut down sf early anyway and now u have less hp so doesn't sound worth at all man.

                                    Luckily ganks don't exist at my mmr

                                    GRANT MACDONALD

                                      Just party with a clock and Lycan and deny some cogs to start, then have Lycan summon wolves, let rosh hit then and SF can deny them as well. Heck you can do this with treants and eidelons for much damage

                                      Shou

                                        u only do that with cogs cuz those other summons r actually useful and not worth 2 bonus dmg for sf

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                                        Dire Wolf

                                          No one gets double bands anymore because of dragon lance. Drow and sniper don't go multiple bands any more because they are buying two elvenskin things to build into lance instead of stacking wraith bands. They still might go one for aquila, but naked wraith band isn't very good anymore.

                                          Puay

                                            Please dont practice qb SF....

                                            It's good that you tried to come up with new stuff, but no, not this one.

                                            yung griphook

                                              the idea is interesting, as you see some Drow's go qb but for very different reasons. Like someone said before me, I think I would rather go circlet and branches, and u can always eat the branches if you need to for more regen, by that time you should have your bottle and can bottle crow if you need to

                                              ETd

                                                6 GG branches best build

                                                despair

                                                  Getting qb when against an np??

                                                  Shou

                                                    drows and morphs used to go quelling when it was percent based dmg cuz even tho it was less for ranged they had a lot of agi

                                                    Jacked

                                                      if ur issue is regen, why not just ferry more after the rune?