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General DiscussionMore complex hero = more rewarding??

More complex hero = more rewarding?? in General Discussion
G-zooz

    Is this true?

    Im pretty sure decent invoker > decent wk

    Jacked

      What you find rewarding is subjective. I'm sure there's ppl that get off on one button king

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        there's 6k WK players who play better than 99.9% of the playerbase, regardless of what hero you put against them.

        Rocket

          Not really true, no. Horses for courses.

          Less complex the hero the more you can focus on the actual game/strategy/build etc.

          More complex the hero the more you can show off.

          The legion of 40% winrate invoker-spammers are really tedious to have on your team!

          ねずみ

            Yes

            Aethoeix

              sure
              e.g. invoker, meepo, brood

              disgusting weebs

                no

                let the money talk

                  3k invos FeelsGoodMan

                  cartel

                    @rocket I fucking hate those.....how hard is it to understand that you shouldnt be spamming a hero you cant win with

                    despair

                      Yes, only applies to the most complex heroes like earth spirit, IO, chen
                      It is more rewarding but more punishing if you commit a mistake, cast relocate a second late and your carry dies etc.

                      TripleSteal-

                        11 out of 10 players i meet in solo q mastered invoker but barely anyone know to play decent wk
                        that is supposed to have some sort of meaning, i guess

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                        BenaoLifedancer

                          I'd say more difficult to carry out and bring home a win other than "difficult hero". Meepo/Invoker pickers are just shit players

                          UnSure

                            It's personal preference, everyone finds different shit rewarding, some find lol more rewarding then dota

                            Cheap Laugh Guy

                              Ogre's pretty rewarding for me

                              chicken spook,,,,

                                Rewarding is subjective.

                                ねずみ

                                  Yes

                                  зачем я начал поиск

                                    For me, most rewarding are the heros, with which I can destroy and rape the enemy, dominate the shit out of them.

                                    The reason I play Broodmother as much.

                                    Nothing's more rewarding than completely dumpstering supports and weak carries, forcing them to come to you and feed again, killing them over and over in theie jungle, forcing rage bb's and ragequits.

                                    It's even more amusing, when they buy sentries and you deward both sentries with your single one.

                                    The support can't even farm up a brown boot and just runs around with wards and nothing else, dies non-stop.

                                    This is so great and I like making support players feel bad and tilted.

                                    Also great to win against dumb Axes, LCs and Bristlebacks, Earthshakers, who legitimately think they're gonna do jack shit (most of the time only LC poses a threat out of these heroes).

                                    Earthshaker is a literal creep, a false counter and it's super amusing, when he fails.

                                    The guy picks ES, I go with 3-4 spiders, he jumps and echo and whoops, it's a fucking 18 minutes Radiance-BKB Broodmother and your echo dogshit did barely any damage, I just eat the shithead in 3 hits.

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                                      Since when did invoker became so complex? IO,Brood,Chen (meepo is easy once'd you mastered the combo and if you're jungle pattern isn't shit)

                                      despair

                                        ^i meant that when relocating an ally caught by chrono, black hole is more difficult to pull off than WHEN nether swapping the hero.

                                        chicken spook,,,,

                                          Man that shit is next level actually
                                          You dont even see that kind of stuff on pro matches quite often (but it's probably only because wisp is banned 24/7 anyway)

                                          muki

                                            invoker needs more mechanical skill

                                            but you can outplay 3 enemies by positioning, armlet toggling and juking with wk, then kill them

                                            depends how you define "rewarding". analogy can be guitar players. you have the lightning fast ultra technical wizards, and the players who are minimalist but hit all the right notes with perfect timing.

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                                            chicken spook,,,,

                                              If you define "rewarding" and grinding mmr I'm sure you will be dissapointed after mastering chen

                                              low prio master

                                                I tell you like this,check this my acc,yeah high winrate on one of the most complex hero,i can have a similar winrate with heroes like viper,razor,axe,necro...or my strongest heroes (propably slark) but winning games on these heroes simply doesn't satisfied me at all,it does but only first 100games on recent heroes not anymore,its different when you play heroes like IO,invoker,es,puck or any of high skill cap heroes when i already have about 700games on io and i still improving i know i can still be much better,not much with slark,razor,viper or so....im in stage when dota is clearly fun for me playing memes picking heroes which nobody else do and stuff like that.
                                                So i would say definitely rewarding on both sides of coin - fun and also success but be prepared success come on high skill cap heroes never sooner than you have done at least 100 games i get decent on io after 300games (only decent).

                                                despair

                                                  Rephrase the title into more complex = more tilting when you make a mistake

                                                  Nile

                                                    Wk is boring, invoker is fun.

                                                    all role player

                                                      ^ the most fun is to shut down invoker as wk and hear wk laugh
                                                      https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/f/fe/Wraith_kill_18.mp3

                                                      rain markcawat

                                                        no

                                                        Anomaluna

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                                                          Klonu

                                                            Experts everywhere. If you talk about decent WK tell atleast what does it mean to be decent WK.

                                                            Player 368673122

                                                              depends on your own persona that coexists with fun,
                                                              some find the game fun as long as its a win so they counterpick or boost acc/smurf and dominate with their hero pool, it's Fun.
                                                              some find the game fun as long as they execute difficult plays with success, whether it be win or lose, it's Fun.
                                                              some find the game fun as long as they are not the one having the hard time in lane, so they jungle, it's Fun.
                                                              some find the game fun as long as they're not one of the 4 that's apart of a forced 4protect1 lineup, so they sniper or medusa and have a good time for the next 30 minutes while the team is 0-10, it's Fun

                                                              i'd say wings gaming will always be my favourite for winning a ti consistently playing different heroes, combining the 1st and 2nd mentioned above respectively - rewarding themselves and spectators, it's More Fun.
                                                              "DotA becomes very stale if we play the same heroes over and over again." - y`

                                                              Player 368673122

                                                                OH AND SHOUTOUT TO THE FEW WHO PLAY ORACLE, IO, SD, OD, SILENCER, VS ETC CAUSE WHAT'S FUN IS SAVING THEIR BOYS GIVING THEM HOPE IN MOMENTS WHEN ALL HOPE IS LOST
                                                                UNLESS THEY AREN'T ON MY TEAM, IN THAT CASE DIG A HOLE AND DIE