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General DiscussionHow come the players in the 3.5-3.9 bracket seem alot better than the...

How come the players in the 3.5-3.9 bracket seem alot better than the players in the 4-4.5k bracket? in General Discussion
9o_o6

    anyone notice this? What is the reason for this?

    meteor hammer

      what? lol

      PR()WL-

        IMO 4k's know that they cant reach 5k and they eventually lose hope while 3.5k - 3.9k are so damn enthusiastic especially in EU u wonder.

        BenaoLifedancer

          That's because your skill is not high enough to discern skill correctly

          despair

            Because 4k mmr people thinks that they are better than most people, and usually does not listen to others, which usually ends up in a game lacking teamwork

            Jacked

              What benao said

              you are not good

                People stuck in the 3k bracket are in my opinion constantly getting better. It's an endless cycle of never moving into the 4's.

                Potato Marshal

                  Solo MMR 3716

                  :thinking:

                  Riguma Borusu

                    Actually if this were true there would still be a logical explanation - there are more actual 5-6ks in 3.5k right now than there were ever before, because even if they calibrate at max they are still gonna spend a few games in 3.5k-4.0k which could be enough to tilt people who have been 3.5k for ages.

                    I mean, it's kinda funny, but nowadays you don't even have to smurf down to play at 3.5k, even if you are a 8k player you'll have to grind your way up to 8k from 3.5k.

                    Oldman

                      Yep its smurfs fault mostly. But being carried by 7k doesnt make other people play better than 4,5 k.

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                          死の恐怖 Haseo

                            nice sub 50% winrate bro

                            Aethoeix

                              getting a true high mmr smurf in ur game team is completely random so in the long run they have no impact on your mmr

                              you will still climb if u r good enough (not like me)

                              I ve been stuck in 3.8-4.0 for a month already :(

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                              despair

                                depends on the role that you are playing...

                                9o_o6

                                  Ya I probably was not clear. I did not mean all 10 players in a 3k bracket will all be better than 10 players in a 4k bracket. I mean every other game there are people in the 3k bracket that is extremely dominate like 20-1. The skill wise of that player seems alot better than those you see in the 4k bracket. I have 2 accounts and I played in both bracket and where as the 4k bracket it is a the average group of players in the 3k bracket there are alot of really special players. I did not know they changed calibration this might be the cause of this. Thanks for informing me.

                                  cancer

                                    Because when they reach 4k they are playing against their own level of play?

                                    Rocket

                                      There's a 56% chance that the smurfer is on the other team (if there is one) it isn't actually completely random

                                      Ting

                                        i played around with 4k guys while climbing up and there are really people who thinks they are really good for the team, keep flaming you says "gg end" "this (insert player) is cancer".

                                        played with someone who boasts he is 4.5k then i questioned him why u in 3.8k now and he says cancer players made him lose all the time

                                        he still falling deep since i last played with him in a VHS match

                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/players/47755866

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                                        JackPot!

                                          it doesn't let you calibrate higher than around 4k, so if someone is 4k there is a chance they're at maximum skill, while alot of above 4ks are there because they calibrated there when it was possible to calibrate there.

                                          Vertoxity

                                            Benao, aka road to 3k xD

                                            1-IceTea 🌟

                                              Funny,my mmr won't drop more then 300 when I grind from 3.7K to 5.2K.

                                              There is a big skill different between 3.5 (so bad at everything) and 4.5 (not good at everything)

                                              1-IceTea 🌟

                                                In short-OP is noob

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                                                despair

                                                  @icetea
                                                  looks like you are struggling to get out of lp pool, but still how did you climb to 5k in sea(carry exclusive)? when in 4k people first pick mid and carry.

                                                  despair

                                                    wow, spamming jungler heroes to reach 5k, it was indeed unique, was there a time wherein you're team flamed you for picking a jungler?

                                                    1-IceTea 🌟

                                                      ^Everytime,every match the more intense it got when I got more mmr,but it only make the dick slap more sweeter when I solo carry the game jajaja btw read all 3 page of the thread and you will know more

                                                      fear is the mind killer

                                                        high 3ks are giga trashs dude. 4.5k players are btter no doubts

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                                                        despair

                                                          4.5k players are btter no doubts

                                                          that hurt me quite a lot but very true...