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General Discussionhow to win when am is picked by team

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Cripple Ninja

    like seriously this hero fucking garbage. make the game 4vs5 and after 30 min farming 6 slot am still cant carry the game.
    pls help... enemy always comeback because we cant push highgroud because this garbage am still farming all the time and have zero impact even if the game come late.

    7 game row lose... now if team pick am i will feed mid

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    Cripple Ninja

      pls halp

      Cheap Laugh Guy

        halp me too

        doc joferlyn simp

          Make a lot of space and pray to all things holy that the AM knows what he is supposed to do, and knows how to do it. If there is no support better pick that. Don't pick more greedy carries. If a guy picks AM in post-7.00 it's either because he had a recent dominating performance and wants to do it again (which you will try to allow him to) or he bought a sick set for AM and wants to try it out (in which case you're likely to be fucked).

          In terms of picks you can't really do anything about it but adapt.

          For example if a teammate first picked a Techies then it would be a good idea to choose heroes who have a stronger lategame, by virtue of the fact that that Techies will plant green bombs all over your base, everyone in the game knows that the game will be at least 60+ minutes long.

          doc joferlyn simp

            Don't underestimate a 5-slotted AM. Three dead without buybacks or cores with BKB on CD will die to an AM, unless the enemy is something like a Spectre/PA/6-slotted Slark with a bunch of Agi stacks.

            Beks

              well
              pick LS slardar have fun

              evy

                Haha funny
                I get trash teammates who makes my AM games hard

                evy

                  The meta doesn't exist below 5k
                  The only thing you should blame for incompetence is the player
                  Of course it would be hard to win if the antimage you get is a dimwit who rushes VG before boots and goes for BF before making treads, only sits in the lane, and gets 6 slotted 50 minutes in, but you should also think did you make space for him? Did you adapt your playstyle?

                  evy

                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3033568429
                    Open your fucking eyes
                    It would've been easy if jugg didnt buy bf, alch didnt buy radi, and both riced my jungle 24/7, or if both of them didnt pick any of those shit in the first place

                    Jack__Attack

                      If your team picks am you need to choose a space creator aka some one with high early game impact or early kill potential. A couple examples would be:

                      Carry: Ursa, Slark, luna, jugg

                      Support: witch doctor, cm, spirit breaker, pudge.

                      There are of course other heroes that will pair well, but those are just a couple with high early game impact I used as example.

                      Meme

                        The hero isn't garbage, he's a retard magnet a'la Sniper circa 6.86-7.00

                        Beks

                          the pick doesnt matter in 4k < in my midd 4k i think it does maybe im wrong

                          9'Mill

                            just accept the fact the you are pure shit and not doing your job correctly

                            kormoranas

                              halp him someone guys

                              BenaoLifedancer

                                I recommend going woods and leaving him alone on his lane. Then you create space around teh map 24/7. Eventuallt am will catch up and you will win - if he's any decent. If not, then don't worry, you wouldve lost anyway if you had gone support.

                                At least this way you have some fun.

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                                Pilot

                                  If your team picks AM, you help the AM farm. Try to convince your team to not pick greedy heroes and take team fights opposite the lanes AM is farming in. It's all about a back and forth of drawing attention away from each other (they respond to AM, then they respond to you etc)

                                  The hard part is convincing your team to play around AM. Since you like playing riki so much, you can create so much space in the early game for any of the lanes. This should pressure your opponents into focusing you rather than AM.

                                  kormoranas

                                    TAKE URSA, GO WOODS GG EZ

                                    Shou

                                      Who tf suggested slark, luna, and jugg are space creators? All 3 split push until they have they have theyre cooldowns come off just like am. If u want a mid, with ur am safe, ursa, ember (especially cuz he dicks am on the other team), necro, timber, magnus, etc. r good space creators.

                                      Reese

                                        yeah you should help the am farm and not ignore him all game expecting him to carry the game
                                        that's what happens when someone picks am

                                        Negative Mental Attitude

                                          if ur team picks am you need to pick heroes that can make space and kill with 0 farm
                                          Also make sure your second carry can respond well to aggression

                                          Rocket

                                            Ask yourself if you want to win or not. If the answer is yes, you make space for the am and trust him.

                                            You can't win otherwise - he sucks up too much farm to carry him.