General DiscussionHow to win with am

Maybe greaves rush is the way to go.

ban him xd

u keep trying hard. Thats all

dont fight, split push, win.

ALL YOU NEED TO DO for the first 30 minutes is farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm with MAP AWARENESS
Stay alive, don't go YOLO manfight a horde because you think you're fat and throw all the fucking effort your team sustain a 4v5 the whole fucking game for you.
End the game quickly because picking AM is a sin. Yes, because your 4v5 teammates can't catch up with the net worth as you stole them all.

when ur early game dont just stay i one lane and hope for best
try split push farm go woods tp fights buy treads headdress raindrop destroy tower 1s pick up bounty runes just move around map dont just stand top and wait 30 sec creep

Am is Fucking trash fam. Every game i played in 7.00 onward the team that has him gets stomped out

Cuz u fucking suck. A good am can shrek. A bad am will make everyone think am is dogshit. Although he doesnt suit this early aggression meta he isnt that bad of a hero.

I literally never pick anti mage

Every time the enemy team picks am its literally a free win because instead of a safelane carry they have a Creep with spells

Because the player is bad doesnt mean am is bad
Though he isnt good

Have you tried destroying the enemy ancient

Antimage today is better than he was 1-1,5 years ago but he is still not good. There is little reason to pick this hero over other carries.

Luna won late game vs him

luna does not win late vs am what the fuck?

luna does a ton of nuke dmg and needs mana am can just blink out of her ult too..... trust me its not a good matchup unless there is a huge net worth gap

he is awful early I must agree, I remember ti3 finals when lumi said: when the team really needs a win they pick up an anti mage..sad story for such a fun hero, luna hater here xd

AM sucks against Luna because Luna groups up and takes your rax at 20 minutes, if you manage to survive this period AM is fine as you shrug off eclipse, Luna has mediocre single target physical damage and you can just jump on Luna and bash her every fight.

AM sucks against Luna because Luna groups up and takes your rax at 20 minutes

That only happens in your bracket though.

luna is pretty strong late game. i dont see why luna would lose to am late game? esp with satanic and butterfly, andu know how AMs hate to get mkb

To beat AM lategame you need a strong physical dps core that can deal with bash, Luna lategame only has +38 damage, 5 second bkb, AM can go butter himself and bash generally smashes most ranged carries.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2854251192

My most recent example in ranked where I managed to avoid losing in the first 20 minutes, game dragged on and I ended up being too mobile for the Luna to handle.

How can luna deal with AM lategame without hex or shit
Although luna shits on AM before he comes online

Her bouncy bouncy ☺️ Kills support from behind and when you are sieging any support that come close will die

Am with the same items/networth is much stronger. At this point luna has 1 entire skill that does nothing, and glaives does almost nothing in a 1v1. Am with abyssal stuns luna till bkb runs out then bloodthorns if she has butterfly.

id hate to go against troll as luna tho. but usually am doesnt wanna jump in and manfight a carry? he wants to ideally blow someone up with mana void and dont think going on luna would be ideal. how many games in a luna vs am would an am just man fight a luna? im thinking luna will clear am's illusions faster than he clears hers.

i think in that game if luna wasnt forced to go linkens and went skadi instead, it might've helped

How can a AM + Tinker combo be consistently beat?

By ending the game quickly obviously
Tinker and AM needs alot of space

Or pick some meme initiatiors like slardar

Am doesnt have to clear illusions, he doesnt take magic dmg, and just stuns luna through bkb and then bursts her with mana void.