Cores: jug, sven, mk, timber, fv.
Supports: ogre, lion, jakiro, wd.
Those are off top of my head
Sven is hard to counter are you dumb? Sven is an all around good carry with no extreme weaknesses. Good inlane and good late game. I never suggest picking any carry first pick but this thread is for first pick only
You have a 2kda with 12 Sven games. You say don't first pick Sven because you are a terrible Sven player.
Apart from the above player not knowing much, Sven can be first picked, but I don't think you should ever first pick a carry
i used to first pick sven all the time but i had a discussion with a 4.6ker before that sven is also a not-so-good first pick
especially not now that it's 7.01
sven has lost control over his crucial item timings so he's nowhere as good as the good old ancients stacking sven where you'd basically outfarm everyone and keep outfarming people to gain advantage and then push with the team and jump into fights and wreck everyone
this ancient stacking nerf didn't hit luna that hard because the hero can fight with levels alone
well yes thats correct but it was hard to do it, at least in anything below 3k because no one really knows how to kite properly and a competent sven will get 4-5 slotted by 20-25 mins and break your barracks at 30 mins after winning a fight because he stunned 2-3 people and took them out in 3 swings
yeah, good luck kiting a blink-bkb sven who has outfarmed your whole team and initiates first
if people know what they are doing, it's not easy at all
but at the point where supports get their euls, ghost scepters and when your cores have stuff like hex or can jump him with abyssal, his life becomes much harder, that's why he doesn't want to depend on running around and hitting things, instead, sven jumps to deal a ton of damage, and once his BKB wears off you're going to have some problems
the solution is, again, to be stronger than everyone to begin with, and to use your advantage to push as sven, but it's no longer as easy as it was in previous patches
Promo code :CLQ please im wondering if the faceless is for you really one of the best carries atm? Playing him safelane? Items? Thanks
but now that his main strength is gone (being ahead of items) he becomes much less of a threat let alone worthy of a first pick
as for me first pick centaur works. hero will fit into any lineup and his initiation is very good, not to mention return aura is really good in teamfights and sometimes even sieging
I have not played void in patch 7.01 yet, but fv items haven't changed I don't think. Vlads, diffusal, manta, then whatever you want after that, depending on the game. But I think void is better utility now since it takes awhile for void to farm his items and this patch games end much quicker.
omni isnt a bad fb since u cant take off his repel. usually always a support. pudge not bad either since should roam but who knows sometimes people think he is still a good mid
For those who said Sven is strong and need to be kite to win.
I read silently and smile as a ursa spammer :)
As a 1st pick it must be versatile hero like mk mirana jugg etc. or a hero that fits in almost every lineup like ogre rubick lion. Idk about drow though. Im a ns player though
luna weaver ta and mb qop are the best 1/2s atm i think, i think clinkz has a place somewhere at the top but that remains 2 be seen
luna weaver ta ember are erally really good in pubs for sure though, borderline unlosable
dont think svens particularly good and void is just garbage
Qop is extremely strong mid and ganks well but I can never play a qop when the game goes late
@kitrak: why is void garbage? Or do you mean as pos1? I haven't had a feeling he's particularly strong since the last patches, but I am too stupid to figure out why. I actually thought 7.00 would be a buff to him.
your arguments that Sven is a good hero are actually about the other team drafting and positioning badly.
Not saying he is a bad hero but it isn't sensible to say he is good because people group up or that they don't farm fast enough when there are plenty of heroes that can outfarm sven with the stacking nerf.
Venge carry is going to be massive this patch, heard it here first. It was already borderline viable last version and her talents are much better than equivalent heroes (+25 attack speed, +8 all stats at 15, +50 damage).
@kitrak I would not first pick void as a pos 1, but first pick void for utility ( vlads, blink) is great to have on your team in many lineups.
Void is just ass in any role, even last version it was a very risky pick because he naturally is a bit slower paced than other offlaners due to his heavy cd reliance and farm-dependency and if you didn't get shit done with every single chrono (I'm talking multiple kills+objectives) good teams would abuse you while it was cd. Now the meta is even faster paced and he didn't get any gamechanging buffs or talents.
Half of the hero pool works in this patch. Just pick whatever you like. I generally just counter-pick.
leaving trolling kitrak aside, most of the stuff he suggests is kinda right, but it wont ever work in ur bracket. not just cz u r bad, but due to the fact that the dota itself is slightly sifferent across different mmr brackets.
u wont get away with spamming qop, position 4 mirana/weaver, ta etc. in ur solo queue, even though it works in 8k/comp dota.
I thought ta spammers always last pick, ta is one of the best pub stompters, if there is no counter imo. Especially in 7.00 you can stack ancients on both radiant and dire, you can get a 4 stack at 9 min starting from min 3. That's a mithral hammer for your deso. Good stuff.
u definitely can do any of that stuff in any bracket
im 6-0 on weaver on this patch so far when i have to pick it in my low mmr games. both him and luna kill enemy offlaners so easily and become powerhouses later on very easily.
luna/weaver are autowin heros in any mmr bracket if u understand how to use the hero.
weaver generally is good
pos 4 supp weaver is not rolling over pub games, though, and thats what i was talking about
i didnt say a single word about luna either, she works everywhere now i think, unlike qop and other shit i mentioned
so about weaver, we shouldnt make any boots for him, even the basic brown boot? and should agha be considered even if you are playing carry weaver?
I signed into to play on this acc to play with a friend and for the luls, other acc is 4K then all the Little shit some the these kids are saying would not be said. People jump at people when they see their mmr, trash.
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Need both cores and supports