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General DiscussionButterfly on Huskar

Butterfly on Huskar in General Discussion
Shou

    I was thinking against heroes like slark and lifestealer, who can both purge off halberd and deal a lot of physical dmg and hate evasion, would a butterfly be better than ac against them?

    Shou

      Plus huskar doesn't really need the minus armor or the attack speed from ac all that much.

      meteor hammer

        solar crest

        2 solar crests

        Shou

          I guess so but flutter is nice to have.

          evy

            Wait I thought halbert can't be purged -_-

            evy

              By the time you think "should I buy AC or butterfly" you'd probably lose the game anyway since huskar should close the game out in 30 minutes or less

              Riguma Borusu

                here's a good idea, don't pick huskar into slark or lifestealer or basically anybody who can dish out insane physical damage

                Shou

                  Obviously u dont pick into it. U get counterpicked. Maybe u were going for a dazzle/oracle + huskar strat. Or picked drow and wanted a huskar mid to counter say their zeus.

                  Seoulmate

                    Solar Crest

                    Shou

                      Also at least in shitfuck tier dota huskar isnt that bad late game. One can argue that similar to void/sb magic dmg bash that since u deal so much magic dmg it deals with high armor heroes better in the late game (especially in ns where pipe isnt an item).

                      Shou

                        Ye i already know abt solar crest guess i wont bother with butterfly then thanks for the help

                        Jacked

                          u still go AC because u need dat armour

                          Shou

                            Evasion >= armor imo

                            ThomasTheDankEngine

                              Halberd is only purged by Bkb?!?! So no butterfly get halberd

                              Shou

                                Force that enemy sven to go mkb instead of daedalus etc.

                                Shou

                                  Purged by rage. Purged by repel. Also either way slark becomes untargetable so u cant halberd him.

                                  Riguma Borusu

                                    why would you go fucking halberd on huskar, this is not 2006, you either go solar crest or don't go evasion at all

                                    always go AC as a big armor item, butterfly is a retarded idea that doesn't compensate for his weaknesses

                                    anyway by the time you are thinking about butterfly your opponents will always have their blood thorns and silver edges, so unless you get it in the first 20 minutes or something, it's shit, but at the same time you are never going to get it that early because you need a ton of shit before that

                                    Johnny Rico

                                      get boots satanic and 4 solar crests

                                      Hatsune Miku

                                        huskar needs armor !!!

                                        evy

                                          Solar crest's active evasion can't be removed by true strike, right?
                                          I never bothered to check so help me here

                                          evy

                                            Wolves need no armor
                                            Wolves do not fight
                                            Wolves split push

                                            The Medic Guy

                                              or, you can go veil dagon 5 and aghanim on huskar, mage huskar never can be wrong

                                              Shou

                                                The one shot huskar with eblade veil and aghs and 3 aether lens

                                                Shou

                                                  Also why not halberd. Evasion against physical dmg, some hp, and the active prevents more physical dmg. It is more situational with pike and shit but it isnt a bad item imo. Can u explain to the ns scrub

                                                  Riguma Borusu

                                                    true strike fully negates miss chance from solar crest but huskar can have both miss chance on the target and evasion on himself if he first uses solar crest, THEN PURGES THE DEBUFF, so it is extra valuable on him!

                                                    huskar needs armor, always get armor on huskar, unless you're against a zeus leshrac pugna lineup or some stupid retarded shit like that

                                                    halberd is bad because sange is a shit, basically, it's too expansive for what it does and how it can be purged by anything

                                                    it is really not a carry item at this point

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                                                    Rain

                                                      lol.

                                                      why wud u even ask this. AC of course. Leave butterfly for agility carries and for tiny.

                                                      Shou

                                                        Cuz tiny/sven heroes buy it. I guess u dont need flutter when blink/pike/sb is an item. I didnt know u cud purge the solar crest debuff, it slipped my mind cuz i knew u cud do it to things like halberd

                                                        Shou

                                                          Thx guys for the advice

                                                          Rain

                                                            ^^Huskar already has a mobility ability. Flutter can make sense on a sven tho

                                                            Johnny Rico

                                                              ^what ability, jump on enemies?

                                                              Rain

                                                                jump on enemies

                                                                EBELEX.COM

                                                                  butterfly is one of the core items for huskar at many situations

                                                                  Shou

                                                                    So with the talents do you go for the lifesteal one, or buy morbid mask and hold to upgrade to satanic? Or both?

                                                                    TripleSteal-

                                                                      u always get a halebard on huskar, why do u need anything on top of solar+halebard?

                                                                      Shou

                                                                        I used to go armlet > helm > dlance > pike > halberd > ac/skadi/bkb(only against shit like smoke screen)/linkens(duel) > mkb(wr and pa) > satanic

                                                                        jo~

                                                                          why do u need flutter on huskar

                                                                          Sarllo

                                                                            AC vs. Butterfly
                                                                            atk speed +55 +65
                                                                            armor +15 +7
                                                                            evasion 0 +35%
                                                                            dmg 0 +30 (on huskar)
                                                                            utility -5 armor flutter

                                                                            Now, as u say, huskar doesnt need -5 armor aura.. so, AC (for self, and not for team) is only better in armor...
                                                                            i think butter is better.. BUT, with dominator rework... unless u build vlads, u may need de AC

                                                                            Shou

                                                                              I feel like with the new range talent and dlance huskar no longer gets kited. Before a force and a glimmer, or something and u get rlly kited.

                                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                                Tiny won't buy butterfly any more now that attack speed fully affects illusions. He will go moonshard or AC. Before he went manta and butter for the agility to make them attack faster cus the illusions get bonuses from his ult dmg and aghs.

                                                                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                                  Halberd can't be purged by Slark, only magic immunity.

                                                                                  Shou

                                                                                    I feel like butterfly is still good cuz flutter is rlly good for tiny, and evasion is rlly nice for the hero over armor

                                                                                    MARLAN

                                                                                      HEAVEN'S HALBERD ON ANTIMAGE

                                                                                      I was thinking against heroes like slark and lifestealer, who can both buy MKB and deal a lot of physical dmg and hate evasion, would a Heaven's Halberd be better than ac against them?

                                                                                      Shou

                                                                                        But halberd gets purged by lifestealer and slark just ultis to kill u so u cant halberd

                                                                                        Shou

                                                                                          The question is ac versus butterfly. Ive recieved mixed answers, tho most point to ac.