The problem with Echo Sabre on PA is that the only way it's useful for PA is if you walk up to your opponents and hit them and then use Blink Strike. Blink Strike cooldown at level 4 is actually shorter than Echo Sabre, and since Echo Sabre can't be disassembled you're either stuck with it or you sell it in the late game.
Basically, it's a waste of 2600 gold on PA, because one of PA's two skills actively wastes the proc on the item, and the proc on Echo Sabre is the only reason you buy it in the first place for PA since she doesn't need the 75% mana regen and she can get the stats elsewhere with better lategame upgrades.
You can make a lot of items that don't work on heroes look like they work on them, but it doesn't really change that Echo Sabre's advantages aren't felt by PA. You're better off building other items.
lul. we met a really cancerous duo party. i had no choice
haha kelly shadowfiend. good shit
fuck man, rekt mid, but those two tards kept fighting
and damn jacked carrying that ursa game, wp im impressed
that's a low priority game tho. because i lagged out and got an abandon
issit bad that i really enjoyed watching jugg fail.
can someone remind me how does a level 11 treant win a manfight against a level 11 sven?
idk why he went battlefury,
treant has the highest natural base damage of any hero i think, and his green armor shit can protect up to 7 instances
so its you, a sven who only has an echo sabre, fighting vs a strong and tanky treant (who has mek) and can block 6 of your hits (7 including stun)
the real question is why you stayed to find out
Lmao. Cuz I was like. There's no way a god strength sven loses to a treat right? So I stayed to find out how his living armoir spell works.
And then I also found out that u can't hit someone when rooted. It was a good game despite the lag
I think Jacked's sven is way better than mine
I'm like 300 MMR on sven
Bruh.
I actually got more cs jungling at 10 min than I usually do laning.
Kelly fucking disabled help in the last match. That trigerred me so much
Anyone wanna help me get out of low priority later
how shit do you have to be at csing in order to end up having more cs jungling than laning
hahaha 1k lp games best shit
ill help, this time i wont split p with mag jacked :) i promise
come jacked, lemme carry you
kelly playing dota 2 at 9 pm during a sunday topkek
my class starts at 1pm tomorrow, ill be fine
Haffy because I like to shit on whoever dares to lane against me. Who needs cs when u can strike fear it the offlaners
Split push mag was legit. No way we lose that game despite our throwing
hmm, words mean nothing
when was that daddy vs jacked 1v1 mid
it was fun tbh, we waiting for u jacked
Job completed
seriously, we should get some badges for our incorrect mmr predictions
Yeah XD
did yall know that pa's dagger triggers echo sabre's slow when it is used off cd? i just discovered that today and it is good shit
may seem overkil seeing as how stifling dagger already has a slow but why not stack the slows
isnt echo saber redundant though? you already have attack speed from 2nd, plus if its the stats your looking for, better go aquila or vangaurd
between the two of us i used it as a farming item since my kotl left lane at level 2 in anger since i didnt want to kill tide (no dmg kotl and pa lul)
had to iron talon at my 2nd death. i figured since iw ont go bfury ecchi sabre will have to do
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2821858684
i think i read somewhere before that using elves lower my rank?
also that there are special moves u can get from bosses if u beat them on s rank?
you know how to use echo sabre properly on pa?
blink first before u dagger to proc echo slow, then reapply it using dagger
that way u dont stack slows
interesting, might try that build for fun
but honestly speaking echo sabre PA is dogshit
you got it wrong alice
dagger only procs the slow if the echo sabre is on cd
if i initiate first with it then i cant reapply the slow
why does that matter though, dagger slow is sufficient
ohohoho gonna spam this shit to 3k mmr no kappa. fuck yall i listen to bigdaddy
but in case i fail be here to comfort me roflmao
my english is so bad
what i meant is that u can slow first with echo via blink, then when echo slow wears off u can just dagger them so they get slowed again
but yeah that barely matters, the cd on echo/dagger are so low anyway
The problem with Echo Sabre on PA is that the only way it's useful for PA is if you walk up to your opponents and hit them and then use Blink Strike. Blink Strike cooldown at level 4 is actually shorter than Echo Sabre, and since Echo Sabre can't be disassembled you're either stuck with it or you sell it in the late game.
Basically, it's a waste of 2600 gold on PA, because one of PA's two skills actively wastes the proc on the item, and the proc on Echo Sabre is the only reason you buy it in the first place for PA since she doesn't need the 75% mana regen and she can get the stats elsewhere with better lategame upgrades.
You can make a lot of items that don't work on heroes look like they work on them, but it doesn't really change that Echo Sabre's advantages aren't felt by PA. You're better off building other items.
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i tried pa echo before and tbh in that game i kept complaining about it cuz i ran out of slots
pretty much rather get vlads + raindrops for enough survivability. everything echo gives is so fucking negligible on PA
i still believe, i bought an arcana for that hero not gonna see it go to waste
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/48/Anti_respawn_08.mp3
you know before hero nerfs, im pretty sure raindrops are gonna fucking get a heavy nerf
that item does shittons of stuff for its cost, its unbelievable
yeah i get that item on slark ever since it came out
meanwhile, i think pa doesnt have enough slots for that. basi, pms, phase, blight stone, tp are what you should be carrying early game
ive always underestimated that item tbh and it wasnt until recently that ive respected it so much that i buy it almost every game
Echo saber pa huh, seems legit.
I will try this out in my sub 1k bracket
Raindrop should be 400 gold or shit
Way too useful