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General DiscussionWhy vlads for AM? Not domi.

Why vlads for AM? Not domi. in General Discussion
Urip

    Hey guys, i was wondering about why most people build vlads for AM. Why not domi instead? Domi gives lifesteal + stacking capability + armor. Also, you can upgrade it to satanic in late game to replace tarasque. So, is it a good idea to replace vlads with domi for AM?

    TripleSteal-

      antimage has a passive that doesnt stack woth any sources of lifesteal except vlads, that is not a UAM

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        NotLikeThis

        Totentanz to The King: M ...

          You have 64 games with the hero and I have no idea how you won %50 of them without even knowing this.

          dunce

            i would flame u if u were in my team

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              Dominator is an UAM. Doesn't work with mana burn.

              On another note guys, what is the build for Anti mage now? I've seen 3 variations:

              same old bfury Vlad manta
              Vanguard vlads manta(Miracle)
              bury vanguard manta( with vanguard bought before bfury i guess?)

              which and why?)

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              Ame

                You kidding right?!

                Ame

                  Why in the hell ppl build vlad on am
                  Its totally useless. He has around 1k hp for most of the game so bfury regen is enough and its delay manta too nuch
                  I buy bfury then manta then abyssal blade then butterfly then heart or mkb or daelus or Ac.

                  dunce

                    ^because u are normal skill

                    Mr. Furryhentai

                      bfury vanguard manta is the build now

                      Ame

                        Thats all you have to say? Scurb

                        TripleSteal-

                          vlads cz sustain, push, armor and mana regen

                          Hatsune Miku

                            you can get dominator, if you dont skill the mana burn ;)

                            Ame

                              Vlad is good when u dont buy bfury like miracle otherwise its useless

                              dunce

                                ^wrong.

                                Ame

                                  Ok ok forget it
                                  Im out

                                  dunce

                                    ty
                                    checked
                                    and im LITERALLY almost x5 higher mmr than you.
                                    for me its good enough to say correct or wrong to ur opinions regarding dota :salty:

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                                      because if AM wears a helm its hard for him to carry it. better vlads

                                      Ame

                                        Just Kys pls

                                        dunce

                                          :salty: normal skill :salty:

                                          Ame

                                            Ure literally too stupid and ignorant to have discussion with.

                                            dunce

                                              4Head

                                              dunce

                                                1 0 0 0 M A T C H M A K I N G P O I N T S
                                                but hao?

                                                dunce

                                                  i know u can build am without vlads, i remember black^ used to do that everytime but metas change and vlads is a must-have item for am

                                                  CLICHÉ✪

                                                    @Antydote: Vlads gives you enough sustain that you never have to go back to base basically, just BF is not enough, you will take more dmg than you heal with BF's hp regen. So Vlads increases farming Speed because you have less down-time, gives you enough mana regen with BF to blink almost constantly, gives nice armour and dmg and is widely accepted as core item (both if you do the miracle build or the traditional BF build).
                                                    Also saying inx is ignorant is a bit hypocritical, given he's way higher mmr than you and therefore is way more experienced, skilled and also got more knowlegde about Dota than you do. It's like going to University as freshman and telling your professor he has no clue.

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                                                    Ame

                                                      Only thing matters is winning. Anything else is just ppl choise.
                                                      Just respect opinions.
                                                      Diferent players, diferent playstyle with their item build.
                                                      As a normal skill player if i go for vlad before manta its like a auto loss since team start flaming me and enemy got so fed. Other hand without vlad he come online sooner. My play style is not just farm for 30 min and let my team be 4. And i dont have dedicated support. Hell just like spectre that should always look for kills with ulti I do it with anti mage too. I think anti nage has a good mid game power that is so underrated. My plan is to be active in clashes and farm at same time and its so efficient.

                                                      D
                                                      D

                                                        dont skill mana break and get satanic >NEW META!

                                                        dunce

                                                          with vlads u come online like 1-2min later and it helps ur team as well and helps u push better
                                                          basically this item was made for am

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                                                            Murranji

                                                              The issue with the helm of the dominator is that AM doesn't clear ancient stacks fast until much later in the game because he just doesn't have the HP or damage in the early part of the game to tank 3-4 ancient stacks while he farms them. And then of course by the time he can quickly clear ancient stacks he's already got enough farm to go fighting and can quickly clear a whole jungle in less than a minute.

                                                              This is different to a hero like Sven who can clear the stack with god's strength damage, or tidehunter who can clear it with anchor smash, or TA who can use refraction and meld strike damage or medusa who is able to stay far enough out of range that she doesn't get hit by the ancients too much etc. These heroes use ancient stacks early on to accelerate their farm (either to catch up with an enemy carry or outfarm them even more). And stacking a large normal camp isn't worth the time, most of the time an AM can clear the whole jungle in under a minute so you wouldn't be able to making any stacks anyway.

                                                              dunce

                                                                ^the issue is that if u wanna get domi u cant level mana break xD

                                                                Urip

                                                                  My bad, i didnt know that domi's lifesteal wont stack with AM's mana drain. Ty for the information.

                                                                  Feed

                                                                    It doesnt stack with AM's mana drain. Unique attack modifier

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                                                                      Antydote, vlads helps at fighting too. A anti-mage with bfury vlads yasha at lets say 18-19 min is probably the strongest heroes on the map

                                                                      Professor Dog

                                                                        Don't skill mana break. I mean who needs the law? Am has no right to burn mana, calls himself anti mage and blink is one of the best spells in the game. Get Mask of Madness then if you want to weeaboo roleplay and follow the lore, get a diffusal blade. It will stack with your MoM, your Mj and your Skadi. All core items.

                                                                        arin

                                                                          but... you buy it on him?
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                                                                          TheMaverick427

                                                                            Just so you know, Eye of Skadi's Slow, Desolator and Diffusal Blade Manaburn don't stack with AM's Mana Break Either. (The first two are also Unique attack Modifiers and Diffusal doesn't stack because multiple manaburns don't stack)

                                                                            Corona FRIES

                                                                              @inx don't bother arguing with that normal skill player dude, he kept posting wrong information everywhere and kept trying to argue that his method is correct. you-just-cant-make-sense-of-1k-mentality dude

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                                                                              chocopie

                                                                                did someone call me?

                                                                                dunce

                                                                                  @Packeyou I was actually doing it for my own entertainment. I was like full 4Head
                                                                                  BTW how can i post pictures? Or why can't i see images i post? when i post this -> i see nothing

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                                                                                  H2ODelirious

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                                                                                    yung griphook

                                                                                      i've been seeing vanguard manta lately.. i can't bring myself to skip bf though

                                                                                      Soyaaa_

                                                                                        Once I tried to be new meta w am and went Dom s n y, and skadi. Then I realize they all don't work with am. Rofl

                                                                                        Willynilly

                                                                                          The answer is simple.

                                                                                          -> HoD lifesteal is a UAM so it doesn't stack w/ AM Mana Burn. *MOST IMPORTANT FACT*

                                                                                          -> Blyad's cyka too good for AM. Gives regen, armor, dmg, lifesteal, aura for creeps. Synergizes well with BF/Manta.
                                                                                          Cost efficient too.

                                                                                          HALIMAW MAGOVERTHINK

                                                                                            I think in this current meta AM players dont build vlad. Battlefury, Vanguard, Manta, Abyssal

                                                                                            sooyaaa

                                                                                              It's simple, the aura it gives to allies makes a lot of difference in early/mid game team fights. Not unless you only care about yourself.

                                                                                              Chu4Lyfe

                                                                                                NotLikeThis x2

                                                                                                chocopie

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                                                                                                  HartzFear

                                                                                                    Heart is the worst Item u could ever get on am. Even Blink is better.

                                                                                                    EmotionalDrift

                                                                                                      FailFish x4

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