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Dog

    What did you do to solve slark's mana issues before echo sabre was implemented? It doesn't seem like tread switching + ring of aquila/basillus could do much to help sustain his mana usage early-mid game.

    Luxon

      tread switching + aquila is pretty much enough to sustain his mana. Not to mention that you'll be getting an ultimate orb for skadi or silver edge quite early anyway.

      Filthy

        It was enough unless you were fighting a lot . Needed skadi to solve all his mana issues. Silver edge plus echo is prob enough mana now tho .

        Chadzpyre

          just RoA and treads should be enough, i dont think you want echo on this hero anyway.

          Guy Riki

            Euls

            TripleSteal-

              u can be fine without roa, just tread switch is enough as long as u pay attention

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                ^Pretty sure u can't. Aquila was enough for me and now u can go silver edge cuz it gives stats, so ur mana pool is higher.

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                matrice

                  cause there's still people making echo sabre on slark ?

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                    Matrice u still think it's awful? aquila > silver edge right?

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                    Snu

                      Am I the only one who really likes using Orchid on him? I know it is situational, but the option to upgrade it makes it such an awesome item, even late game. Orchid also solves ANY type of mana issues early game, and is a better option than Echo Sabre.

                      Chadzpyre

                        0.0 dont forget the midas after RoA no kappa

                        Elduryb, orchid without blink/shadow blade is meh, and by the time that you would be buying it it's lost a lot of effectiveness. Slark doesnt have a long range jump like a QOP or Storm, but orchid can be ok if you get it fast enough and yes bloodthorn is dank af late game.

                        Chadzpyre

                          Also dont forget wind lace on this hero, % based movespeed buffs make it 2 gud.

                          Trodlabundin

                            I remember when I was 3-4k all Slarks in my games bought shadowblade->orchid. Lul xD

                            arin

                              i was usually ok just with aquila and tread switching when it came to jungling
                              and when you have a long fight and burn a lot of mana then even echo sabre would hardly help you

                              Snu

                                Yasha is also good early game in combination with the Wind Lance. I'd go Yasha into S&Y over Blink. And Yasha, Orchid, then completing the S&Y is reasonable.

                                Livin' Real Good

                                  Ring of Aquila and Tread switching was enough, it's just that echosaber kind of spoils you now, so when you go back to the old ring of aquila build, you start to wonder " how the fuck did did I used to mana manage so well with this shitty mana regen. " Both builds are good honestly, but if you're really having that much trouble mana managing, just get a wand too for the stats + replenish effect.

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                                  Nile

                                    Just tread switching is enough for farming, not to mention supports usually pick up mana boots.

                                    Reese

                                      imo infused raindrop is really good on the hero to spam pact early

                                      Chadzpyre

                                        does raindrop get triggered by pact self-damage? if not then wind lace and drop are some super cheap super effective pickups

                                        Androgynous

                                          raindrop doesn't trigger off dark pact, it only triggers off instances of 50 damage or higher.

                                          Trodlabundin

                                            @Elduryb

                                            > Yasha is also good early game in combination with the Wind Lance. I'd go Yasha into S&Y over Blink. And Yasha, Orchid, then completing the S&Y is reasonable.

                                            Yasha, Orchid. Barely 1k hp Slark (who also takes 150 magic dmg from using dark pact). How are you even gonna initiate on heros with these items.

                                            That's over 6k gold you could've spent so much more efficiently. When you think about builds, try to compare it to other items of same value..

                                            Snu

                                              Yeah, these where my solutions pre-patch, but then again, I am a normal skill scrub. I do, of course, get other early game items before a Yasha. Probably completed Treads, RoA, Wand, maybe something else, like a PMS or Bracer.
                                              In this patch, I've played 2 games with Slark. The one with Echo Sabre went better.
                                              http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2337669309 (elduryb)
                                              http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2322230976 (snu)

                                              Dog

                                                I'm going to try soul ring on slark for a no-bullshit mana solution in a normal game later.

                                                ^skill bracket differences played a factor too, not just your item choices.

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                                                arin

                                                  do you go sange or yasha first on slark
                                                  or do you even get sny

                                                  some people were telling me that yasha is complete dogshit on slark but idk, i like the haste speed in dark pact a lot

                                                  jo~

                                                    wand and just healing