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General DiscussionARC WARDEN 6.87

ARC WARDEN 6.87 in General Discussion
arin

    what do i do with this hero now
    eblade dagon shiva hex?

    Luxon

      "Tempest Double ability/item cooldowns now persist on the unit"
      Depends on wtf this means.

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      game is bad

        I'm assuming it means no more spam diffusal on everybody anymore.

        arin

          "Tempest Double ability/item cooldowns now persist on the unit"
          Depends on wtf this means.

          i believe this means that cooldowns are fixed on clone and they dont reset when you get a new one, like the cooldown keeps going when clone is dead

          arin

            aka nerf on midas and necrobook

            arin

              I'm assuming it means no more spam diffusal on everybody anymore.

              the cooldown persist doesnt affect this at all but diffu has 2s cd now

              Execute Order 322

                his clone will no more carry gem/rapier if he has it

                arin

                  yeah
                  tho i usually bought rapier as 5-6 slot

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                    It is a nerf to this bullshit rapier + bkb build where you could just melt towers with 100% evasion & magic resistance

                    arin

                      you dont even get to towers most of the time so it wasn't THAT good
                      also with poor stat gain, mkb carriers would just melt you instantly

                      TheMaverick427

                        I assume it means that BKB cooldown will now permanently decrease for the clone and things like that

                        Totentanz to The King: M ...

                          No. It simply means, if the main hero has the item on cooldown, the clone will do so too. So you can't just use it for free midas every time. And you will have to manage your cooldowns better as well. If you don't use the items on the main hero though, it doesn't change anything.

                          game is bad

                            I think that means if you want double necrobook, your main guy better have necrobook off cooldown. Same with midas. Can't spam your illusion out to a different lane and necrobook there anymore.

                            one syllable anglo-saxon

                              No, by the wording of it it more likely means what arin said, clone has his won separate cooldowns.

                              I'd suggest you forget about this hero.
                              Like, Magnetic Field is fucking dogshit, the whole point of it was that you could save your teammates or yourself from mostly melee attackers and now this doesn't work. Same with farming jungle, most strong creeps are melee and they don't give a fuck now. I think it;s the same with towers,you can no longer use it as a glyph.

                              This + Flux being purgable and BKB-dispellable renders you completely helpless against melee carries, you're like Drow.

                              Then this ulti which heavily nerfs midas and necro which are the main reasons hero is good in the first place. Like, does Icefag actually realise Arc Warden is one of the worst natural farmers in the game?

                              Plus there probably will be Slark in every game with those Silver and SnY changes and now that W doesn't do anything against him, you are his food.

                              Actually.

                              Fuck Icefag.

                              I'm fucking triggered.

                              Nerf the Rapira bullshit, make W have less duration or less evasion or give less AS whatever. Make Flux being dispellable by BKB. Ok-Ok, alright, fine, good, that was bullshit, that had to be fixed. BUT WHY PUT THE HERO IN THE FUCKING DUMPSTER? DHDQWBdbdbvqwgefdghqwvdt3ubdhuqw-FUCK.

                              Meanwhile, Invoker, Ench, Void, Zeus and Slark are slightly bruised or even buffed. Why not, I mean, fuck Arc Warden players :)))))

                              Metallicize

                                yes u just have to have items that u wanna use off cd, use ult and then use them

                                one syllable anglo-saxon

                                  Can somebody test it and say for sure? My test client is broken somehow.

                                  RuinSmith_Hlit

                                    From minor tests with arc warden in current test build

                                    The clone has seperate cooldowns, if primary has cooldown it does not effect clone, the clone remembers cooldowns and ticks down as if it were still alive. so if you were to not use the ability for a minute or so the cooldown on a midas will decrease accordingly, other small note, multiple clones is no longer possible with refresher, as the game seems to have the ability to track 1 clone only, and attempting to make a clone from a clone crashes the game

                                    RuinSmith_Hlit

                                      so management of cooldowns isnt as harsh of a punish when you midas early, still, annoying nerf for arc warden.

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                                        arin

                                          is arc a pos 4 support then
                                          fucking Gg

                                          HaylingZar

                                            Arc is fucking dumpstered. Look at the trends and see how this hero which was already shit got destroyed almost as hard as od.

                                            Bubbleboss

                                              this patch is like opening your gift at christmas eve.... that smile on your face! wipe it off! it wont last long

                                              lm ao

                                                Man it was just last night when i finally resolved to spam arc warden rapier build for mmr

                                                fuck you icefraud

                                                lowercasenospace

                                                  Arc got removed from dota? Thats nice

                                                  Preap Sovath

                                                    His double cooldown same as Meepo's copies.

                                                    Maybe Icefu*k will bring reset cooldown or wielding divine for scepter effect

                                                    *{Eerie}*

                                                      Aghanims scepter for Arc Warden 1: Tempest double spawns with a divine rapier in place of aghanims scepter. The rapier lasts 6 seconds. After the duration, it transforms back into an aghanims scepter.

                                                      Aghanims scepter for Arc Warden 2: Tempest double is summoned with all items and abilities on cooldown.