General DiscussionStorm Spirit discussion

Bottle, Arcane Boots, Soul Ring, Soul Booster, Bloodstone = no damage.

the most that is viable for damage on storm spirit as an item is power treads, check any build or game online.

I can't speak as a Storm player. But as a support player who was ganked by Storm a lot (few patches ago) I can tell you that with Bloodstone first item you will not be able to kill anybody (without some help from your team).

Yeah, listen to Kitrak. I bet he never buys Arcane Boots into Bloodstone, but goes for PT+Orchid instead.

Kitrak nice advice dude for real.

because cd2 was such a big tournament.

if you want to see a GOOD storm spirit, check my matches out

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/120291559/matches?date=&hero=storm-spirit&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&enjoyment=any&timezone=America%2FChicago

lmfaoooo

I don't know what to say then... If your game plan is to buy Bloodstone and farm jungle for the rest of the match, then pick another hero, please.

P.S. Or uninstall...
P.P.S. ...better uninstall...

I think you triggered him, Soul.

Storm needs items to be very useful.. He's squishy and mana hungry..

So Kitrak makes perfect sense

You just need your team to create space for you on the map. That's all.

Safe lane storm spirit sounds like a great idea.

oh all knowing kitrak, if windranger is one of the worst heroes in dota right now, how am I climbing by spamming her offlane lmfao

I'm not much of a Storm player, but Soultrap has a point. Bloodstone and arcanes alone don't offer storm much damage, and his spells only do so much on their own. Orchid and power treads first give you a bit more right click and solo kill potential. You can have all the mana in the world but without proper damage items, you can't solo kill as easily.

l0l

Storm outfarms whom? When Storm was in meta there was SF as well, and I don't think that idea to outfarm SF is the brightest. Storm is often counterpicked by AM as well. I doubt you can outfarm that guy too.

Lets not talk about old time, whom you can outfarm now. Sven?... Spectre after she finishes her Radiance, because you decided to outfarm her and went for Bloodstone? Yeah, right...

Wait, I need to name some mid heroes. Hmmm... Another great idea is to outfarm midas Invoker.

something is actually FUCKING HAPPENING ON THE FORUMS

Nothing happening, just usual Kitrak's ego.

He cracked. Somebody call the ambulance.

well ik he does this but normally it isn't this actively so it's amusing

im not trying to be offensive or anything but i only asked like 5 questions... I'm so confused what you are saying rn kitrak

i mean the most i have seen any competitive player go for damage wise is treads, and kitrak, how exactly would you farm with storm if you aren't mid. the jungle would be awful considering he wouldn't be able to kill hardly any neutral creeps until lvl 13-16

I think my 4.5k MMR is enough to give an advice or two, besides I gave my advice from "support perspective on Storm Spirit".

Another good question is: how much MMR you need to act like a [untranslatable russian insult] on this forum?

There's been a few topics where several 6k+ MMR players posted their opinions on skill builds and items before. The result was that no more than 2 of them actually agreed on something at a time and this was even when high 5k was considered very good.

Really, the idea of this forums ever improving is just wishful thinking.

jungle would be awful considering he wouldn't be able to kill hardly any neutral creeps until lvl 13-16

ahhh got it. I understand Kitrak. Would i still want the arcane's or treads early or should i go a different route in that case. and soul trap, you've only played three games with SS they where pre patch and you did awful, your build was awful, everything is awful. You're contribution to this post has been cancer.

@vohiyo, i was just thinking that in my build mentioned above remnant wouldn't be maxed until 12-16ish levels

Can anybody with Dotabuff plus confirm that every 5k+ MMR player buys Arcane Boots into Bloodstone first item for the last 12 months?

is there any merit to 441 builds btw since the buffs have been pushing towards that direction

i know zenoth went arc bs build the last few times i palyed with him

Alright Kitrak, Thanks for the suggestions, I'm gonna try out all of what you just said tonight and tomorrow and hit you up if thats alright with you afterwards. Thanks!

If you think bloodstone gives you no damage, you're literally brain damaged. In fact, a lot of heroes don't build a ton of damage in order to be able to deal damage, some heroes get blink in order to be positioned to deal the most damage they can, some heroes build tanky and either deal damage by the virtue of surviving and/or hitting shit or reflecting, etc. There are actually very few heroes who directly build damage @ default builds, and most of those heroes need mobility items too (TA may get a Daedalus and Deso, but if she's in no position to deal damage, well, fuck).

I mean, I should probably stop rushing blink on LC because it gives no damage, now, let's disregard the fact it lets me PTA to get up to +120 attack speed in the fog, and then blink and duel without giving the opponents much time to react, I should probably just rush first item divine rapier, run at my enemies and duel, because that's exactly how dota works and that's how I deal damage.

Storm gets a bloodstone and can more freely spam his spells, is more mobile due to it and effectively deals a lot more damage, the same thing goes for farming.