Great, now i cant click links at the top of page it thinks in trying to edit text or something. Guess im doomed to flame this thread till the end of times.
btw the way u play nyx won't work in 4k+
blindly rushing lvl5 dagon is rather bad, cz nyx is a strong versatile hero with tons of possibilities to outplay enemy team and help your one.
i don't go dagon if i feel my team is half useful and don't need me to solo kill half their team early game so that our 0-5 carry can last till endgame
i'd love to go blink force staff solar crest.....too bad bone headed team does not play t that lvl
strength of nyx in higher tier games is obv his multi target stun and mana burn....too bad 3k pubs don't understand teamfights
Solar crest is very situational but an awesome pick up for nyx in certain games....just as u would get a Dagon vs ints or a hex if your team lacks cc
But then again I assume it's too advanced for u so I understand
blink is ob before solar crest....aghs prob only good for its stats if enemies are not pushing high ground. maybe force....but i prefer solar over euls
If nyx is snowballing aghs + any regen works really well. even if they see you, you can't be removed from burrow, you take 40% less dmg, stun range longer, aoe stun on E.
and euls, stuns etc will just leave you in burrow, euls-ing a burrowed nyx looks funny af
lol still hurts as hell if everyone focuses on you. you only have less than 2k hp with shit armor but yes, watching a pile of turd flying in the air is funny
im a nyx player, and Id say that what kitrak says is legit, while OP is wrong.
some notes on nyx itemization
dagon - situationally good, although you wont be needing it in most 5k+ games, believe me
solar crest - waste of money unless you are safelane support and already have glimmer's cape
glimmer's cape - very situational, but it's a good purchase as long as you are not core and understand how this item works
blink - must-have, core item in 80% of your games, particularly taking into account that attacks blocked by carapaces no longer cancel blink
force stuff - you purchase it to replace blink cz some spectre/zeus/undying in the other team dont let you use blink OR when you already other mobility items and are looking to become even more mobile OR when you are too poor to afford blink (=early game goes rly bad)
eul - very good item, particularly if paired with blink. Blink+carapaces+eul make you immortal unless your ping is as shitty as my one
aghs - underrated in pubs, but very often purchased in competitive; its insane if used correctly. Nice to have hex/euls with aghs, cz their cds are also decreased
hex - useful, particularly with aghs or just as 6th slot, but as it no longer blocks passives, this item isjust weaker in general than it was
octarine core - hehe haha. Sometimes ppl get aghs plus octarine for even lower cooldowns, but its better to spend ur money on smthng more efficient.
eblade - good lategame item, not necesarilly used to increase your damage output, but also to save ur allies from enemy manfighters. Goes fine with dagon.
ghost - even not upgraded into eblade, this item is good to increase your survivability.
urn - its okay to have it, but i personally consider this item not worth investment, cz its better to rush your first mobility item
errrr some i disagree with....
dagon - this is core in low tier. ur combo kills with this
solar - how the fuck is this not a great item. this is as versatile as an item gets....gives u survivability, gives ur teammates survivability, debuffs rosh, debuffs enemie, debuffs EVERYTHING....all for 3k gold....even medallion is not bad
glimmer - lol fancy play syndrome...
blink - duh
force staff - unless u force across a cliff or sth...not really that great of an escape mechanism. force staff impale almost never works as an initiation with delay of impale
- eul....ya sure u can eul to blink escape but thats prob very situational....not rly worth the money for that imo....eul to setup stun is prob redundant with blink alrdy
-urn....rly helps with mana...if u r stomping and u r allowed to free roam t pick up kills...this is not bad
- hex....too expensive...if u can get it and ur team lacks cc....
- linkens....pub stomping
-heart....same
-eblade unless someone on ur team has lvl 5 dagon or uber magic dmg, this is prob a waste. u don't get a 6k item to save ur teammate...
-aghs. this is never sth in competitive.....competitive nyx does not have the gold for this....maybe in some ranked games when u had a great start
ofc you disagree you're a fucking 2 smurfing and failing to even get 3k motherfuucker just GTFO MY FORUM PEICE OF SHIT
lol despite that u kept on encouraging kitrak to accept my challenge.....u never dared to accept the challenge urself....
why? scared that a 3k stomps u in 1v1 nyx?
heart and solar crest, hp and evasion on nyx? aghs is never smthng in competitive? force for cliffs? glimmer fancy play syndrome? situational eul?
okay i give up
The only way solar crest could be used is to stun, solar crest, ult, hit again, and even then being in a 3k bracket like you are there's a high chance you will mess that up even with a blink dagger.
You need to stop flaunting and taunting like making a smurf and managing a 60% winrate in like 30 games is anything unusual. Based of the progression of your games, and the player pool you're with your hidden MMR actually sits about 3300 +/- which anyone can do on a high skill smurf with almost any hero.
"competitive nyx does not have the gold for this" Like you've ever played competitive Dota2
"glimmer - lol fancy play syndrome" You mean like basic decent support player level?
"force staff impale almost never works as an initiation" If you're not great at landing nyx stuns then sure
"eul to setup stun is prob redundant with blink alrdy" If you can't stun with force then probably can't with blink either.
I dunno about double nyx mid as that could go on forever but I will take you 1v1 with any mid hero despite being ass at both mid heroes and mid overall. Want to do visage vs nyx? Int vs Nyx?
http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/2686/matches?date=&hero=nyx-assassin
ESL - Force built as much as blink, dagon built as much as euls and only ever upgraded past level 1 twice. 2 months old so the scepter upgrade may/may not have been added so it was either not available or people hadn't perfected the interaction so didn't build it.
http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/2790/matches?date=&hero=nyx-assassin
ASUS ROG - Euls sceptre more prevelant than blink, no force, no dagon, sceptres built consistently where time allowed. Again, NO DAGONS.
http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/2661/matches?date=&hero=nyx-assassin
The Summit - Mostly support Nyx, blink force euls pretty standards, one dagon as a late pickup.
http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/2733/matches?date=&hero=nyx-assassin
The International - To many to go through but the majority of games they are going sceptre, in some games over favoring it over blink, force, and euls which are follow up items to this as well as octarine core. No dagons in sight and one medallion game which was a joke and over in like 20 minutes because medallion is pointless but then again, it was a support Nyx.
Summary - Any good Nyx player is getting Blink, Euls, Force, Sceptre or any combination of 2 or all, people are dodging dagon because you should have enough impact without it and in fact do more late game cause they haven't suck tons of cash into a level 5 dagon so have enough disables and escapes for less.
Learn to play Nyx properly.
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Yp new thread.
And u will get a new thread everytime someone decides to go full retrd and make big letters
win win :D
note to mods:
since someone keeps on spamming my page, i find it hard to convey my point hence the need for a new thread. i assure that there will not be further new threads if said user is banned or muted :D