stack ez camp > then do a double pull > then do triple pull u dont haf to use any salve ez ez
Also, I think that matrice jungling is better as you don't need any regen an probably farm even faster.
http://youtu.be/0EiCOjXbB0c basically this. add 2 slippers at start or buy the courier if needed, you can afford it. Can be done on radiant, too.
he goes qb + 2 slipper and starts by cliffing with fervor which is faster and less damage taken compared to stance level one.
you can get like a 8-9min level 8 and roshan within 11 min
oh nvm i just tried the strat from the youtube vid and got a 8min 10 roshan and level 8
It was first done on luna actually, but she starts off weak, especially after that small base agility nerf.
I must be doing the cliff jungling wrong cus it's slower for me than regular jungle.
First you don't buy a salve, go tango, quell, stout. I put a point in Q, go kill easy camp, stack it to kill it twice. You should be 2 by now, put a point in E. Go ranged pull medium camps to the sweet spot, switch to melee form, from there you can go E then W, you should be able to kill both camps, hit respawn sometime in there, kill a 3rd or 4th and be level 4. With 1/1/2 build you can now kill any camp easily and you should have or be really close to morbid mask. From there build whatever you want but usually go phase boots then aquila/medallion.
^^Please don't steal easy camp from the safelane. They'll hate you and both supp and carry will report you.
Well yeah if you're going to cliff jungle you don't need stout shield or heals. Matrice buys slippers to turn into pms later and the extra stats is great early. But again, I find killing those guys in ranged form awfully slow, even with first point in fervor. Will have to test again.
"^^Please don't steal easy camp from the safelane. They'll hate you and both supp and carry will report you."
You only need the first two spawns and supports get too into an automatic pulling mode and upset lane balance. Supports almost never pull at right time or are so obsessed with pulling they don't zone out offlaner. I prefer the support wait a couple spawns to feel out the situation before blindly pulling.
yea i actually thought i needed the stats but i appears its something that can be done without after several practice lobbies
er the only way you can be getting bad timings is that you are resetting your fervor procs or you forget to stack the camp if you cant clear it in time.
please dont argue about actually trying to clear the easy camp.. the pathing is inefficient anyway.. not to mention the camp is commonly blocked so why would you rely on it for your jungle pattern...
if you have crystal maiden in your team you can spam melee whirling axes every time you engage a camp and not care
Did bot match with both methods, one I bought qb only and stacked the medium camp from hill, then bought morbid mask, phase boots, aquila, rosh. Had my items min 8, rosh dead by 10. Skills were e, q, e, w, e, r, q.
Next match I bought qb, tango, stout shield. Stacked and cleared easy camp. Skills were same except q then e to start. After easy camp down just normal jungle rotations, ranged pulling mediums, swapping between ranged and melee. Bought same items, items around min 9, rosh dead by 11.
So it seems to shave about a min off but I think that's just cus of the money spend on stout shield. However stout shield is kind of necessary if you aren't going to do that hill medium camp or else you take too much dmg before morbid mask. Also rosh without shield was pretty close. I think I had under 200 hp with ult on cd when he died. I had about double that with the shield. 20 dmg block vs rosh doesn't seem like much but he's doing about 80 dmg at min 10 so you're blocking about 15% of the dmg.
u only need hotd qb and wolf/ogre to rosh.
if you are able to rosh before 8 min you should always do so because the upgrades are at 4 min intervals.
Timberwolf with your method Iwhat do you mean hit respawn? Are you referring to suicide to neutrals the. Respawn and go back or do you mean stack the camp?
The troll on my team jungled this game, maybe someone can watch it if they want to see how they did it.
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If you jungle with him, do you have to choke point jungle? Recently I've done it and without choke point I have to use 1 salve before I get my morbid mask.