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General DiscussionHow are you guys building sniper now?

How are you guys building sniper now? in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    Still maxing shrapnel? I played him once and did awful. Was vs a pudge and bara so I couldn't really push my mid tower well at all with shrapnel change. It was too dangerous to go across river to shoot it. It was a really bad lineup for me to play and we got crushed. Trying to determine if new shrapnel just changes the play style, or I just played shitty or enemy team was too big of a counter and I should give it another go.

    I just don't like the new shrapnel at all, I realize mana is a lot better but cooldown is way too long as well. It went from what, 15 seconds old one to 40 now? That's ridiculous, I think I need to try again maxing headshot now and maybe I'll skip aquila and go drums or something.

    6_din_49

      Just put one level in it and max it last.

      THICC BABY SHUM

        we dont play him

        deathbyZero

          max shrapnel or nothing

          Dire Wolf

            And then what, just pew pew and farm, don't push towers anymore? Hard to safely hit towers if other team has a lot of gankers now. Maybe sniper has to go safe lane, too gankable mid.

            THICC BABY SHUM

              how u going to gank sniper with 3 slows and so much vision from q?

              THICC BABY SHUM

                need smoke
                but with smoke any hero will get ganked, and sniper with good lane controll can keep creeps close and stand under tower.

                i love u butt

                  sniper has too many direct counters, any tanky hero with a disable/burst can dive the tower and pick him off, if he is not heavily supported

                  Dune, the Desert Planet

                    Still maxing shrapnel? That spell was trash before, now it's awesome.

                    rambosalad

                      shrapnel is still snipers best spell

                      Dire Wolf

                        "how u going to gank sniper with 3 slows and so much vision from q?"

                        So what you spam shrapnels to the left or right of lane just to see if people are coming to gank you? I guess that's fine if someone calls a missing and it's obviously, but pubs are not very heads up with their calls and I'm not good enough to scan all the lanes simultaneously and watch mid.

                        THICC BABY SHUM

                          thats y I always look who is missing, cuz nobody ever call ss.

                          PROTECTHIMFROMWHATHEWANTS

                            is sniper the dwarf that dies with 2 hits? i dont remember

                            THICC BABY SHUM

                              dorf

                              Dire Wolf

                                well I used to be sweet with him (ok that's a relative term but I was maintaining over 60% win rate in ranked) but I would always push t1s aggressively with shrapnel. It was quite easy. Once my lane's was down tp into other lanes, do the same. Then I usually had lots of space to farm. So the change is throwing off my strategy.

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                                  @YNIT gave enough answer. case is closed

                                  Rise

                                    MAX SHRAPNEL GET LVL 7 GANK

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                                      sniper is really good mid if u max shrapnel first. almost guranteed kills at 6 if u have 3 charges of shrap ready

                                      Jambi

                                        4-1-1 is the way to go for sniper mid

                                        キョズミ

                                          Shrapnel is pretty godly after the changes..50 mana per cast and with good management one always have 1 to 2 shrapnel charges in hand..imo it's really dumb not to max it now, it makes sniper able to contribute early to mid skirmishes very well and farm quickly

                                          Also, I wouldn't go mid with sniper unless it's last resort Lol ... even then it really boils down to the match up and opp's lineup. But with new shrapnel changes sniper can offlane rather well, if they can't just dive and burst you under tower.

                                          Just my 2 cents as an avid sniper player, 63% (68% highest)win rate on him.

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                                          Hopeless

                                            Shrapnel is a ganking tool.

                                            Its not going to save you. If you have a safe lane free farm. 1 shrapnel is enough till later I think.

                                            If you want to get your gank on, max shrapnel.

                                            But its hard to say. 1/4/4/1 seems good still.

                                            キョズミ

                                              Headshot really does nothing except mess up your last hits though early, since you don't have the ias to dish out the deeps. On other hand, I couldn't count the amount of times shrapnel allowed me to win duels and kite melee heros, especially after the change.. I still prefer 4/0/4/1. At level 4, level 2 take aim imo gives more bang for buck as opposed to taking 1 point in headshot.

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                                              Hopeless

                                                how does 90 maxed physical damage and a slow do nothing...?

                                                It only messes up your last hits if you rely on it

                                                キョズミ

                                                  Then you realize you don't have the as to make any good use of headshot.. and get juked because you can't pop shrapnel to reveal your target.