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General DiscussionEmber Spirit Mid vs. Safelane

Ember Spirit Mid vs. Safelane in General Discussion
Seoulmate

    I've seen him played in both. I personally think mid is better for Ember due to his natural ability to gank, his great rune control, and the fact he can shut down any other melee mid hero he's against. But people are telling me that I'm wrong and that he should safelane farm away from the team and stack battlefuries (although in my opinion stacking daedalus's would be more handy). It would seem that his early kill potential is wasted by sitting in the safelane farming.

    TL;DR : Is Ember Spirit better in mid or safelane?

    Rise

      Mid he needs levels to do well early

      Jing

        safelane embers are retarded noobs that dont know how the hero works, if u wanna afk farm go pilay void or am

        mid is always better, and fury is always good, no need to stack, 1 fury and rest burizas

        Neme

          There are few heroes that you really shouldnt lane on mid, especialy voker and storm. They will shut you down easily, if played smart.

          On the other hand, go safelane, if you are only carry in team

          Wink

            mid if not against a retarded op mid hero like viper and od

            Quick maffs

              The thing with mid ember is that he suffers against range heroes.

              Viper and OD makes him cry.

              If i am not mistaken there is a math behind saying that 3 bfury does more damage, 3 bfury + daedalus

              Low Expectations

                @*ESP* Wink
                Does he get the viper passive if u harass with his sleight fist?

                Quick maffs

                  I am not sure but probably, i mean ember cant even come close to the creeps against viper, i think.

                  Wink

                    @deadshot
                    if he uses sleight on viper, he will take the corrosive skin damage after landing on the ground, but not while slashing around.

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                    Jing

                      i rape vipers/puck/storm/voker mid with ember all day long, its so easy not even funny

                      mwsqz

                        u must be pro ;o can i be your first sponsor ?

                        Seoulmate

                          so basically if the enemy is ranged, put him safelane
                          if the enemy is melee, put him mid

                          sano

                            ofc not lol
                            ember destroys a lot of ranged heroes

                            Quick maffs

                              Well i seriously dont know what he could do against OD or Viper.

                              I dont know about the rest

                              King of Low Prio

                                I pref ember in the mid lane because I play sleight + bolas and hate afk farming

                                casual gamer

                                  Even against a really unfavorable matchup like storm or viper, you can score a kill if supports rotate and when you hit level 7 they will be completely zoned out of the lane.

                                  That being said, if I see viper picked I'll usually head safelane so that my team can send somebody mid who will get cs.

                                  Dr Sharkie^

                                    I prefer to play ember at mid, bottle is amazing on ember. 1 battlefury is fine, I only go for 2 battlefuries if it is a safe lane ember game just for that big more regen that you won't have from lack of a bottle (assuming your midder gets a bottle instead). Then onto a daedalus (or MKB depending on the situation, or linkin's if there's a Doom or something similar and you can't avoid him in the team fights from the ult). Then have fun.

                                    Wink

                                      there are 2 popular item builds for ember

                                      general item build: phase -> drums -> desolator -> daedalus -> daedalus
                                      against mass unit enemy team: phase -> battlefury -> battlefury -> daedalus -> daedalus -> battlefury

                                      situationals like MKB fit anywhere along the build after the first big item (deso/bfury)

                                      many players like BoT instead of phase, which is great too because it lets him freely abuse his ulti for regen and returning to wherever he was very quickly

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