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虎牙slancers

    Chinese make a wesite, DOTAMAX.com
    i think U guys can learn something from it

    Mostwanted

      IF ONLY I COULD READ CHINESE

      虎牙slancers

        might be Chinglish,haha

        whoji

          那个dotamax什么时候开始有的?
          刚知道。

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          Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

            I like dotomax.com moar.

            Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

              Gorefiend, Ryan, Brooklyn Kurtz, Eater Ghost, Great Deep Soul, lol I love google translation.

              Wave

                whoji wor ting bo dong, ni hui shuo yingwen ma

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                kanye went to uni

                  ^wo* not 'wor'.

                  Actually I'm kinda interested - what translator actually told you to type 'wor'?

                  EDIT: Holy shit, if the stuff that site provides is legit, I'm impressed! Can someone who can read Chinese tell us how they got skill tier information? I saw that they related MMR brackets to skill tiers, but if that was how they got skill tiers, how did they obtain MMRs?

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                  Wave

                    none im just bad with chinese LOL

                    Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                      pretty sure the tier imformation we pre-ranked and before they closed it.

                      kanye went to uni

                        No, it shows skill tiers of all recent matches. Maybe they really do search every so often matches by skill tier and record every single match? It's the only way I can think of.

                        Zauxst

                          At least now I know my high wr is 52% and my normal and low wr are below 40% now I understand what's going on...

                          BOSS

                            Q: 什么是Normal, High, Very High的比赛?Dotamax如何得到的数据?
                            A: 每个dota2 的账号都隐藏了一个匹配值Match Making Rating(MMR),后来给出天梯分基本就是MMR的一个直接体现,当玩家选择个人(组队)寻找比赛时,dota2会根据你(你队伍)的MMR(平均MMR)匹配其他正在寻找比赛的玩家(队伍)。Skill等级: Normal(普通), High(高水平), Very High(非常高), 是大致放映MMR区间的一种表示方式,在9月的一次更新后Value屏蔽了使用玩家数字ID得到Skill等级的办法,但并没有取消Skill的获得和计算,Dotamax通过不断的轮询所有的比赛而不使用用户的数字ID仍然可以得到Skill,也就是说Dotamax得数据来自官方API,对于有些玩家的质疑,我们表示理解并支持给我们指出错误,但是也不希望因为少数人的误解让大家怀疑我们数据的真实性,希望大家可以自己去分辨对错而不是人云亦云。事实胜于雄辩,其实大家可以对照下你得SKILL等级和天梯分区间的关系。。SKill等级是在比赛前就确定的,目前的经验判断 Normal:大约是天梯分(0 ~ 3200), High: 大约是天梯(3200 ~ 3800), Very High: 大约是天梯分( >3800)。
                            SHUUUURE

                            Zenoth

                              Q: What are the Normal, High, Very High matches? How does Dotamax get these statistics?
                              A: Every dota2 match id hides a MMR, which formed the basis for Ranked Matchmaking. When a player queues for a match, Dota 2 matches the game according to his MMR or his party's average MMR. The various brackets are Normal, High and Very High, and was a way of showing the average MMR of a match. Although Valve eventually released Ranked Matchmaking, they did not remove the calculations bla bla bla

                              basically api still holds data for the skill brackets, normal 0-3200 high 3200-3800 very high over 3800 on average

                              whoji

                                they APPROXIMATED normal/high/very high by mmr .normal 0-3200 high 3200-3800 very high over 3800
                                the cutoff are arbitary. not from valve. THEY MADE IT THAT WAY. not the valve normal/high/veryhigh.

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                                Wave

                                  valve's very high was 4500+

                                  dadmode

                                    I thought they said the skill tiers are approximately those brackets, not that they 'derived' skill tiers from those cutoffs. I've started going back after every game and checking the skill tiers and they seem to be accurate for me? Maybe Relentless was right and they decreased the threshold requirement for Very High.

                                    6_din_49

                                      I think Valve's Very high was ~3900. I had solo games on Very High and I'm pretty sure I've never been a 4500 player. Currently I'm ~3500, so a 3900-4k spike would sound a bit more realistic.

                                      sano

                                        Normal game (including dropped) (8.38%)
                                        Matches: 134 Wins: 48.51% KDA: 3.0
                                        High game (38.09%)
                                        Matches: 609 Wins: 56.98% KDA: 3.2
                                        Very High game (52.28%)
                                        Matches: 836 Wins: 60.05% KDA: 3.1
                                        Professional game (1.25%)
                                        Matches: 20 Wins: 85.00% KDA: 4.8
                                        Ladder Competition
                                        Matches: 139 Wins: 60.43% KDA: 3.3
                                        Normal ladder match (0.00%)
                                        Matches: 0 Wins: 0.00% KDA: 0.0
                                        High ladder match (6.47%)
                                        Screenings: 9 Wins: 66.67% KDA: 3.2
                                        Very High ladder match (93.53%)
                                        Matches: 130 Wins: 60.00% KDA: 3.3
                                        Streak: 20 games
                                        Losing streak: 7 games

                                        very cool, but what's ladder match? it doesn't look like it means ranked

                                        whoji

                                          lol. I am more likely to win high/veryhigh than normal. I should show this to my noobish stack buddies.

                                          Normal 天梯比赛 (36.84%)
                                          场次: 105 胜率: 42.86% KDA: 3.1
                                          High 天梯比赛 (39.30%)
                                          场次: 112 胜率: 56.25% KDA: 3.0
                                          Very High 天梯比赛 (23.86%)
                                          场次: 68 胜率: 50.00% KDA: 2.4

                                          hi everyone, next time ask me to translate any chinese for you.
                                          google translate is unreliable like dota match making.
                                          I am your friendly chinese neighbor. lol

                                          sano

                                            nvm it's ranked

                                            whoji

                                              @sana

                                              ladder is ranked. rank is like to climb up a ladder.... so it trasnlated into chinese

                                              黎の軌跡

                                                挺酷的。谢谢分享

                                                cartographer

                                                  Tried it, quite impressed.

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                                                    so cool you can see which pro player is online. I think dotabuff should have that too

                                                    6_din_49

                                                      How do they know the average mmr of each ranked game? Or how do they know if a game was normal, high or very high? Apparently they are quite accurate.

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                                                      虎牙slancers

                                                        那网站服务器爆表了