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General DiscussionIm tired of being put with idiots

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Vandis

    Oh...i see....while me amd him arent on the right foot that dosent give you the right to critize him...he obviously has some intelliect in this game so first you can notice that he has a extrodmaey amount of kills for both plus mosr likly he has another profile

    sjaaryu シ

      Darkness.
      You are fucking clown. My account have nothing to about this. Really? You think I am wrong with the things I have told him?

      I actually tried to help him. But I don't like people shittalking other for no reason, when they instead could improve their own game.

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      Vandis

        To be honest you arent too too bright if you think the 0 kills 10 deaths antimage is better then the 14 kills...3 deaths i think :p tinker

        sjaaryu シ

          I don't care about ONE game. I look at your replay, 10 minutes and you make a lot of mistakes. (You can improve, remember that!) and if I look at your statistics on all your heroes, your records etc. Yes you can improve.

          I can improve myself, a lot. But I don't blame my teammates, I try to improve. If I have a shitgame, I watch the replay to find out what I could have done better. I play for fun, and I play to win. I have fun when winning, that is why I try to improve while having fun.

          Mia

            i have nothing against u
            i just hate people that generally smurf/stack then bitch about others having lower winrates than them while the said lower winrates they solo q on their starting accounts

            solo q gives you shit team everyonce in a while and WHATEVER you do you cant win because its 9v1

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            succuba

              Anti-mage would rely on his support to help him farm early game.

              Carries score often symbolizes the quality of a support.
              If support is not very good carry wont get far, don't blame AM too hard.

              Example: http://dotabuff.com/matches/404652650

              Vandis

                Thank you once again for good constructive critism yes of course i can alaways improve everyone can im prove bevause like i said in the last couple posts "No one....is perfect."

                Vandis

                  Well yes thats also why i said lion was unforchantly feeding as well...then we didnt get a secondary support so yes....that happened

                  sjaaryu シ

                    I don't smurf. I was going to play 20 games, solo q to check out the new DSR system. My winrate on my main account is not good, true that. I have never played dota#1. I have played a lot of hon. But on my main account I still have a winrate on 54% and I don't stack a lot. And new system gives me 1460 DSR while i actually played 4 games with some IRL friends who just started (50 games total or something)

                    So don't think you know why I do it. It clearly not to get a big e-peen while stacking, smurfing.

                    And actually. If you check out my second game, I already face people with 1300 games and replay was high or very high ' cant remember. So I dont think I face fucktards just cause I just created the account.

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                    Vandis

                      Well um...i dont even know what smurf u speak of...unless your talking about the actual smurfs...or drow...regardless its time for ms to go for a couple hours this quarral has been fun plz feel free to look through my Tinker games..or any of my games for that matter and give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM

                      Mia

                        you got to give him credit for atleast http://dotabuff.com/matches/406786328
                        look at void and ck on 57 min mark. i mean if you even not try to get cs you get more than 70 when someone in your team is holding out.

                        there is so much one can do before the other team catch up to you
                        this stuff happens to me too in solo/dual q

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                        succuba

                          @Vandis

                          Smurf is what you dodge as much as possible.

                          sjaaryu シ

                            Are you one the creators of DSR 親和性 ' FameGG.com? (since you made the other topic)

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                            succuba

                              What do you mean?

                              succuba

                                Oh no, I have nothing to do with coding.

                                succuba

                                  Also here is the problem with smurfing.

                                  http://i.imgur.com/ljyhVUY.jpg

                                  sjaaryu シ

                                    Yes. I know that is how it works. (Which I think is a bad system, you get to much MMR for winning in the beginning) But my other account is very high (when checking "replay, hero name, find timestamp)

                                    But about the "ranking" system in the game, its only win or lose which matters?

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                                    succuba

                                      Matchmaking is trying to find players with similar skill level and make them battle in an even game. (50% chance to win for both sides)
                                      If your global winrate is around 50% that means your skill cap has been reached. It [U]doesn't make you bad[/U], it just means that you've found your place on the ladder.

                                      You can still end up playing in the same bracket as Dendi http://dotabuff.com/players/70388657, even if your winrate is only 50%.

                                      Keep in mind that winrate [U]does not[/U] represent your actual matchmaking rating.

                                      As you see one of the best middle players in Dota who usually plays public MM alone is averaging 56% winrate.

                                      In the end only a fraction will have global winrate over 50% due to [U]evenly skilled teams[/U] competing against one another.
                                      People who have winrate 60% or more are usually the ones who consistently play as 5-stack.

                                      Even then, it's still hard since they get placed vs other 5-stacks from time to time. (Unless they're dodging games *cough* Vroshak *cough*.

                                      Check people who play against Dendi, most of them average 50% - 52% winrate. Yet they still manage to get queued up with/against him due to their high MMR.

                                      Have some fun and play the game, winrate doesn't mean that much.

                                      sjaaryu シ

                                        I don't care about winrate. I mean, the system tries to even the game by balancing the game 50/50 from MMR.

                                        But if you only gain MMR by winning you'll have to have a very high winrate in the beginning to enter like very very high bracket.

                                        The MMR only increase and decrease from winning and losing.? (Not other things, like KDA, wards, apm etc)

                                        am I wrong? (?)

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                                        succuba

                                          You're playing in very high bracket right now, doesn't it tell you something?

                                          sjaaryu シ

                                            That I have improved since I began playing. :-) But my question was, if the MMR only is effected by winning and losing, or are their other aspects which change your MMR. I mean, if only winning or losing effects MMR - people who solo Q a lot will have a hard time getting into high / very high bracket.

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                                            succuba

                                              We will never know for sure, Valve does not talk about it.
                                              Still I'm pretty confident to say that other stats do count towards your MMR.

                                              Make a new account, pwn some newbies into oblivion and lose the game on purpose without dying.
                                              It will still sky rocket you to very high bracket.

                                              If you want more definitive answer you might want to contact the guy who runs mydotaskill.com or similar website.

                                              They're the ones who hoard data.

                                              That's the closest you can get to understanding how MMR works at this point.

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                                              Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                Here's my review of the games,

                                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/408934711 -Game 1
                                                5 mintues in, Storms cs is 22 vs. yours 8. CM on top out lash hit AM, 14-10. You had bottle 3 mintues in but 0 runes 20 mintues in. Though you ganked bot pretty good, top lost pretty convincingly. AM & Korb was just bad that game. Rewinding the game to 1/2 way mark. You can clearly see each lane on radiant winning their lane.

                                                406786328 -Game 2
                                                Once again your friend wickedwalnut feeding top. Void is harassing instead of last hitting and dazzle leading in the LH department and feed departement. They both die top before 2 mintues WTF? You didn't call miss at 5:30 resulting in double kill for magnus. Game was over at 30 mintues when ur team decided to push mid with 3 heroes.

                                                405209760 - Game 3
                                                Once again your friend proves he's such a feeder/weak player. You tied with melee mid with last hits 5 mintues in. You could improve on the denies more. If your versusing a melee who isn't harassing you. You should be able to get off 3 last hits per wave and 2 denies. You guys got back into the game with those 2 30 mintue battles. Game ended after Luna dc'ed.

                                                Conclusion:
                                                IMO Veno & Meepo did a better job there in the team. Also that was prob. the best of the 3 games that you played tinker since u actually got to push lanes and gotten dagon. I would suggest dropping your friend walnut, any pub will do better. Also focus more on last hitting and denying, especially if your lane enemy is melee. That laser/rocket build been nerfed like years back so it's not that viable no more. Sure you tried very hard in pub games and it works out but it's just a bit below the BAR in terms of OP'ness. I'd say drow/troll/slark are better options. If you like that global gank go furion. TInker is like 42% winrate this week, seven from the bottom on winrate. Even Lina does better if u like a nuking ganker, you don't even need to land stuns, just find low hp ones and does dragon's slave & ult. If you like making or breaking the game get POTM, get his ult at 6. Save every ally onwards with your ult when it's off cooldown, it will pay back in 15-30 mintues.

                                                Keep on learning & enjoying dota!

                                                succuba

                                                  Why not teach friend to play better Doto? ^^

                                                  Mia

                                                    ^ because rl friends are retarded

                                                    Skeltz

                                                      please buiild hex with tinker

                                                      Vandis

                                                        Hello friends im back i do thank you for the review of my games and the ppsitive feedback...yes walnut is my friemd my IRL friend so im not dropping him he is new but he is getting better...as for darkness comment...you must really be in a dark place to think rl friends "suck" ur life will continue to be in darkness without them...prehapes thats why you named yourself darkness

                                                        Vandis

                                                          As for hex with Tinker instead of linkems yes i do need to do that....i just like linkems on Tinker better

                                                          Vandis

                                                            Well friends it is time for me to leave again for a few hours as i said if u would like continue to look through any of my games i am begining to think i should possiply get someone to coach me for a little so i get better

                                                            Tyakos

                                                              >IM TIRED OF BEING PUT WITH IDIOTS

                                                              The only way for you is to stop playing dota. Otherwise it is a 100% chance.

                                                              Jehzz

                                                                I said it yesterday in a different thread, and I'll say it again.

                                                                Yes, match making sucks, and it fucks people over, but its NOT JUST YOU. You are not the special snowflake that Valve is being unfair to. You encounter enemy teams that have a major weak link that wins the game for you, but you never notice because you WON and you think its because you are awaesome.

                                                                Shut up with the "woe is me" bullshit and work on getting better to get into high brackets. Just yesterday I was playing a Gyro game where I was the only hard carry that was picked on either team. Had my team listened to a single god damned thing I said and played defensively, stacked, and avoided fighting their mid game fighting team, we would have had an easy game. They didn't, they constantly tried and failed ganking the enemy side of the map, stole my farm whenever possible, and in general made every wrong decision possible. Did I go making a thread about how match making is fucking me over by matching me with people who don't know anything about strategy? No, because for every mind numbing loss like that, I have a pathetically easy win.

                                                                It's not just you dude. Nobody else wants to hear it. This forum doesn't need another thread like this. Nobody cares. Shut the fuck up.

                                                                King of Low Prio

                                                                  yea it is quite annoying watching players who play things like
                                                                  'riki, BH, weaver, tinker, furion, luna etc'
                                                                  and then act like the fact that they have a high kda means they have any idea what they are doing
                                                                  there are heroes who have a easy time securing kills what differentiates a shitty player and a great player with those heroes is how they monopolize those kills.

                                                                  SantuyBoy

                                                                    If you complain how noob your friend are, most people will only give you harsh criticism.
                                                                    But if you want to get constructive criticism or if you ask for replay analysis, people will behave the opposite.

                                                                    Now, what do you want to gain from this thread?

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                                                                    Woof Woof

                                                                      did you see video with mm guy recorded by someone from fntic while they were on tour through valve ? He looked like the least competent person i ve seen in last few years of my life and surprise surprise quality of his work isnt far away from his presence

                                                                      whoji

                                                                        rule #1 here.
                                                                        Never start a thread if your wr is less than 50%.

                                                                        Hariooo

                                                                          LOL you queue with your even worse walnut friend (therefore getting low skilled teammates and enemies in every match), subject the other 3 people on your team to his feeding (so obviously they're going to do worse to fed enemies) and then you complain that your team isn't picking up the slack?

                                                                          Even your decisions outside each game are making you more likely to lose LMAO.

                                                                          Vandis

                                                                            Ah im back...im back to find people just trying to put me down....oh well it dosent hurt me..but it hurts u in the sense that u strive to put others down a trait that defines weak....i would very much appreciate it if most of you stop making fools of uselfs and actually put nice things or constructive critisim..instead of just putting me down

                                                                            King of Low Prio

                                                                              your whole thread was started with you putting down your teammates dont try and act all high and mighty now, it only makes you look like a lil fgt

                                                                              Vandis

                                                                                Hmm you are correct unforchantly...but i dont think im "all mighty" bevayse everyone is equal...as for your comment about being a faggot simpily is not correct because im not a faggot im also not little

                                                                                Quick maffs

                                                                                  Dude once you get >50 more kills you can complain that you team did nothing

                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/366404402

                                                                                  "If you complain how noob your friend are, most people will only give you harsh criticism. "

                                                                                  I play with a real life friend and i have the RIGHT to tell to everyone how fucking bad he is .. !

                                                                                  No seriously if he says that he friends is bad " noob " he is probably right, personally i have way better winrate playing alone than stacking with my friend, but its funny playing with him so fuck it.

                                                                                  "Why not teach friend to play better Doto? ^^"

                                                                                  I have found myself to be really bad at teaching, after 11 months of playing the game i found that he didnt knew that you could double tap to tp to base .........

                                                                                  And if i try to teach him something he will say " yeah yeah ok whatever " and he will do the same mistake against next game.

                                                                                  Dire Wolf

                                                                                    What do records have to do with anything? Any noob can play against worse noobs at some point and score 30 kills. Looking at stats is fine but I don't get why records would have anything to do with skill.

                                                                                    BoJack

                                                                                      "Hmm you are correct unforchantly...but i dont think im "all mighty" bevayse everyone is equal...as for your comment about being a faggot simpily is not correct because im not a faggot im also not little"

                                                                                      OK BUT URE RETARDED BRO! ALL UR THREADS ARE RETARDED! LIKE EVERY WEEK U MAKE A NEW AUTISTIC THREAD!

                                                                                      Ples Mercy

                                                                                        ^
                                                                                        true dat

                                                                                        Introp7

                                                                                          srsly. whenever i reach the new level - oh, i suck at dota and : 1), 2), 3) - i improve, by alot. If you are so bad you cant even grasp how bad you are and refuse to even think about that - you will never carry any game. Game has over 100 heroes and hard mechanics, and you refuse to learn them and expect to win? maybe look for easier game, like league of legends or wait for new blizz moba?

                                                                                          Hariooo

                                                                                            Hey guys I'm tired of playing with noobs and feeders but I queue every single game with my IRL friend who is a noob and feeds every game.

                                                                                            Volvo plz fix MM!

                                                                                            Winter

                                                                                              A bit off-topic but I seem to have grew a bad habit. If I lose it's either because of:

                                                                                              1. Enemy team is rat doto, best doto.
                                                                                              2. Enemy team picks nub heroes for ez win.
                                                                                              3. Enemy team is tryhard.

                                                                                              Try it and it helps getting over the loss :D

                                                                                              Double Agent

                                                                                                rat doto <3

                                                                                                Winter

                                                                                                  Lmao, you can perfectly fit within all of the points I mention, haha.

                                                                                                  Edit: Holy! That TA win rate. Marry me.

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                                                                                                  BenaoLifedancer

                                                                                                    I think this guy is trolling... there's just no way he can possible think he's any good/above avg or smth remotely close to that...

                                                                                                    DUDE U GET GOLD FROM LAST HITS.
                                                                                                    U WIN YOUR LANE BY HAVING THE ENEMY LEAVE THE LANE (or kill)
                                                                                                    U GET BOTTLE FOR SUSTAINMENT!

                                                                                                    linken srsly?? FUCKING SERIOUS?
                                                                                                    how are u remotely useful with it?

                                                                                                    Vandis

                                                                                                      *sigh* i honestly feel srry for most of you...i mean i really do. You waste your pethedic lives trying to "troll" or made me sad or angry..well it inst working so for your own sake i suggest you stop making mean/neagitive comments because in the end your only hurting yourself...btw no im not a "troll"