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General DiscussionWhy do I keep getting svens in my game after 7.27?

Why do I keep getting svens in my game after 7.27? in General Discussion
NineO_OSix

    https://www.dotabuff.com/players/95758502/matches?date=patch_7.27&teammate_hero=sven&enhance=overview

    Every single sven player on my team does nothing the entire game. Takes most of the farm off the map and feeds non stop. They then go agh and proceed to jump into fountains or into 5 heroes.

    It is a barely 50% win rate hero on dotabuff why people pick it?

    Every sven player in this bracket are game losing losers.

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    Lex

      Sven is good but builds are the problem.

      Imo best is echo blink rush. You come on line around 12-15 min mark and smash their faces.

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      Dreadnought325

        The toxicity never ends, does it? 177 GPM in your game as windranger haha. My Grim has a GPM 3 times that of yours.

        ReHa

          like the guy above pointed out , you play like dogshit . But keep blaming others champ.

          NineO_OSix

            ? I was the support that game. None of the cores defended any towers.

            parmaviolets

              Just play wraith king and build a silver edge instead. Its like Sven but you farm faster, hit harder and come back from the dead

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              Kabir singh's bo0ster

                ^ You got one of these right.

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                parmaviolets

                  ^ You got one of these right.

                  I mean it is subjective dependent on item builds obviously but I find Wraith King shoves creep lanes and clears jungle faster with his crit and skeletons than Sven does with Great Cleave. I also think that Wraith King hits harder than Sven who would have to buy a Daedalus to output the same damage. The only large pitfall Wraith King has is his lack of AOE damage compared to Sven. I would still say that Wraith King is the better hero at the moment though and that is backed up by his pick/win rate.

                  Kabir singh's bo0ster

                    U can type Sven or WK on this site, open guides, and see who has more avg last hits at 10 - 20 - 30 min its Sven most of the time. Its not even about the item build, both itemless, in maxed god strength Sven has like 300 damage on WK and this is without items he gains % based damage, sure WK has crit procs, but Sven has way higher and more consistent damage output. WK's overall win rate is higher, but Sven's win rate and pick rate is well above him in Divine+ I think hes pretty good this patch.

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                    parmaviolets

                      I wont argue cause I also believe he is really strong this patch to be honest. You can not really go wrong with Sven, it is my belief a good Wraith King is better than a good Sven but both are viable meta picks at the moment :)

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                      神さまの言うとおり

                        wk have bigger gap for mistake so (in late game) if you make bad move it barely as punishing as other heroes

                        Dreadnought325

                          @Nine, so support no need to farm? So you do nothing and let the creeps sit there to rot? Look at your map and see how many camps have rotted pass the minute mark. Cant defend tower, cos you did not have powershot.

                          Powershot is more versatile then shackleshot. Shackleshot can only be used to gank, but powershot can be used in any situation. So naturally when your gank fails, you simply do not have any backup plan.

                          I like WR as even if your core fails, she is flexible enough to take back the core role. Meteor hammer is actually a core item on her. Im sorry, but I think every item except boots that you got on WR is wrong. If you are not getting a magic wand, go for a crown instead so that you can upgrade it later. Blight stone is more for core WR that wants to focus on physical dmg (upgrade to deso). Wind lace is not needed since your 3rd skill is enough for an escape. You can get a raindrop instead of null at 6min. Javellin again is for core, and does not go well with blight stone either. Could have gone for some magic resistance instead. Meteor with shackle is still the best for any role.

                          Dreadnought325

                            You can check my latest game. Teamwork is when everyone dont leave any creep sitting around to rot. The entire map is completely dominated, and everyone's gpm is close to 500 or above. Everyone plays a part in both the support and core role. Everyone is equally important, and everyone has something important to do at any stage of the game.

                            NineO_OSix

                              ya... well ur playing in archon bracket. If i was in that game i would have 5v1 as wr.

                              A Wild Pikachu Has Appeared!

                                im pretty sure supports in <4k just sit in lane and do nothing, just leeching exp and blame their carries. Picking a support hero doesnt mean you are supporting if you not warding and zoning your enemies, and 177gpm on a support is awful

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                                ReHa

                                  @NineO_OSix dont be delusional noob , you wouldnt win a 1 vs 2 archon lane. 177gpm support lmfao

                                  NineO_OSix

                                    ^ Reha https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5538934438 hahahahaha lets all point and laugh at this 200 gpm viper offlane. or his
                                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5537965033 1-16 huskar with 200 gpm. or his 0-16 https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5537722922
                                    Storm mid with 200 gpm. Good shit bro.

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                                    Kowareta

                                      but he didnt made any thread whining about his teammates. u see the difference? pathetic, really disgusting

                                      Sir

                                        sven is right now about top 5 best carry picks, this is the reason.
                                        That said its super hard to make work and noobs fail all the time.

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