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General DiscussionWhy die to enemy tower instead of denying yourself with pudge?

Why die to enemy tower instead of denying yourself with pudge? in General Discussion
Blitz

    I watched a pro not too long ago, supposedly the best pudge and he would say to die to enemy tower to tp back to lane... Why not just use rot to deny yourself? why give everyone on the enemy team 100+ gold?

    AnŦaiN

      Its probably because tower kill takes less time then suicide , but i havent made sure of this nor calculated this . U can try in lobby . I did that as sky and worked surprisingly .

      sirlala

        It doesn't give everyone on the enemy team 100+ gold, that's a display bug. The 120gold or whatever it is, is split between the 5 heroes. Giving 25 gold per hero is a worthwhile payment to save time when you are losing experience/gold and the enemy is basically freefarming because you aren't pressuring.

        cartel

          he just didn't want to kill himself dude why you gotta be so harsh on the guy damn

          Yami Yugi

            ^ lol
            is too short (minimum is 6 characters)

            Marko Bulat

              I watched a pro not too long ago, supposedly the best pudge and he would say to die to enemy tower to tp back to lane... Why not just use rot to deny yourself? why give everyone on the enemy team 100+ gold?

              You need to expand on your game knowledge, only 1 thing is important in dota, efficiency, if you are more efficient than opponents you will outfarm them and win the game. Yes when you die you give them gold, but amount is negligible what is more important you deny them exp and coming back with full HP and mana while they have to spend their gold on regen to sustain in the lane, who profits here?

              Also if you are offlaner and enemy carry + support are wasting 1 minute of their time in the lane by chasing you and eventually kill you and take 180g for your kill but missing 2 waves of creeps, who really won here? Two waves of creeps is approximately 450g! So anyone prioritizing kills over farm early in the game is dumb, this is one of the reason why roaming is dead and lanning is very important.

              '96 Neve Campbell

                what is it with this painfully average smurf telling everyone they are bad in every thread

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                Marko Bulat

                  ^Whats with you and your inability to lift your solo MMR above 1k? :/

                  This account has 2.7 solo and uncalibrated party, but its around solo, we can switch if you like. i can pimp your solo in few weeks.

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                  Feachairu

                    its probably which one is faster at the moment or something,suicide rot same respawn time right?
                    also kys

                    Marko Bulat

                      ^Same respawn, but tower kills you faster, pudge has 0 armor.

                      Player 199865998

                        ^Yeah but walking to tier 2 takes a lot of time too.
                        There has to be something else about the tower kill other than "it happens faster", because walking would offset that greatly.

                        Probably because your enemy would try to contest your suicide when nearby, but won't find it worth their time to chase you to the tower.
                        Or maybe because said pudge player is level one and doesn't have rot.

                        HS

                          rotting is wasting time dude.. u may have lost a whole creep wave of EXP

                          Player 199865998

                            Rotting from full HP is bad, yes. If you're trying to suicide due to having used up all your mana - go for tower.

                            Suiciding after an encounter however (let's say 50% or less hp left), rot seems like the way to go.

                            Take care to not go for tier 2 while an opponent is walking back to the lane, though. Check respawn times.

                            JDF8

                              Suiciding after an encounter however (let's say 50% or less hp left), rot seems like the way to go.

                              it's all about the suicide death timer nerf. past level 5 or whatever just rot+neutrals is fine, but you'd also be much less likely to want to suicide at that point

                              rotting is wasting time dude.. u may have lost a whole creep wave of EXP

                              you're playing pudge dude, not TA

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