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H^

    ok porki

    faw

      at this point u and blunt might as well be the same person

      H^

        no it was just fun to see him call u fat and it seems like it triggers you and makes you respond.

        porki x d

        faw

          what do u mean, respond? yeah if u talk to me i respond to u

          thats how human communication works btw

          H^

            ok mister porki

            faw

              and its kinda ironic since blunt is fat himself :thinking:

              H^

                porki player

                Massive Dynamic

                  @ Cookie

                  For Necro buy Diffusal/Orchid/BKB.

                  For meepo upgrade to Mjollnir and then get BKB.

                  Storm Spirit Hex/Orchid, BKB.

                  Also, I have a question about Arc. How do you approach a midlane matchup as Arc vs Zeus and Razor? I find those to be a difficult matchup. (On another account.)

                  Jose

                    I do know well places yo place wards but I cant put them unless all my team is with me or they are dead. If nothing of this happens they deward my ward always

                    PVMRT

                      If you're that damn good in using Axe, and try spamming him to gain MMR. Axe is one of the so called baby hero, does it make you noob then?

                      Does people have the right to call you low skilled player?

                      Jake Zyrus

                        @style
                        1.U can use scan before you ward that area or smoke in to ward

                        2.Good ward spots are actually obvious so put them smwhere near

                        3.Analyze the game wether to put defensive wards or offensive once.

                        4.if they dewarded that doesnt mean u failed, u got info that they had vision there and saw you warding

                        Jake Zyrus

                          @groot
                          In the long run you will understand that as long as the hero is relevant even if its very easy to use there is no shame in that. Even pros spam axe if hes op in the current meta

                          matcha

                            sir i want to ask how to climb from 2.4 to 4k
                            advice pls

                            Jake Zyrus

                              @vortune
                              I advice you watch replays of high mmr games. Understand evry detail because evry move or decision they make has a purpose and copy their play style

                              Sia

                                H^ 3 hours ago
                                Necro scythe daedalus mkb/bkb
                                Meepo daedalus mkb bkb you can get scythe too but then u kinda need to pick him off if hes alone with only 1 meepo.
                                Storm scythe daedalus mkb/bkb
                                These item builds are not in order and I've never played arc warden but I think these items would make sense.

                                :O

                                One Man Army

                                  How do i get 6k solo ?
                                  Enlighten me

                                  Jake Zyrus

                                    @KRS
                                    Actually i think your heading there with the versatility ur playing. core and support. Try picking silencer first so your team can counter their counters for you, Just plan ahead though

                                    Oldman

                                      As a retired meepo spammer I can tell that u need Pike bkb and something to stop poofing out like mkb/bloodthorne/hex.

                                      Kotato

                                        so if OP is so smart to give advice why didnt NAVI invited in the current roaster?

                                        Kotato

                                          actually Cookie was trolling with this question about Arc. We all know that the build to win is always the same...

                                          Oldman

                                            On sf you need the same items. Also Meepo dmg mostly come from rightclicks, and rightclicks comes from stats so a lot of armor is also very good. Once I played against Sf who rushed Ac and then Bkb. He was unkillable for me.

                                            Jake Zyrus

                                              @story time
                                              Im not that smart, but i know enough to not ask a childish question. btw Navi not a tier 1 team anymore so move on

                                              Kotato

                                                ^lol, is that the reason why they didnt invite you? Because you are tier 1 material? :D lmao

                                                Jake Zyrus

                                                  @story time
                                                  Nope,
                                                  Keep making statements that make you laugh, ur really good at entertaining yourself gj

                                                  Kotato

                                                    ^no one else is gonna entertain me :D well, maybe your silly post. But why u troll this forum? Stop it :D we know that you are just a smurf of diox or blunt

                                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                      Yea, as expected

                                                      majority are extremely 1 directional answers that think these X heroes are not real humans, but rather training dummies to be nuked down. No expectations of the enemies getting more items parallel to you getting yours, and the usage of those items against you.

                                                      example meepos getting eblade/hex/blink/skadi etc. or storm getting bkb/linkens/orchid/hex etc.

                                                      half of the builds you suggested would fall apart instantly after enemies gotten 1-2 more items.

                                                      ofc there were exceptions which actually gave good answers to the question.

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                                                      Player 404335202

                                                        He is 5.8k ,show some respect lel ! Dropping 800 mmr is too much

                                                        Cashmere

                                                          If you're playing ld and you want to fight early then odds are you are looking at going for the ranged build.
                                                          That is:
                                                          standard starting items -> aquila -> brown boots -> maelstrom -> treads -> lance -> etc.
                                                          Though honestly you can do exactly the same thing with bear build (midas -> radiance -> boots)
                                                          The only difference is that because ranged has a faster item progression, your power spike past lvl 5 is way more noticeable and the damage is slightly more reliable if you aren't as confident with using the bear as much as you should be.

                                                          cartel

                                                            could light have defeated near if he wasnt retarded and used the trick he always used where he put a piece of the death note with him for when the situation is bad...wouldnt he win if he told that tardo mikami like he told takada about this trick.. like mikami would just use that piece of paper after he finds that no one died? or did light think its stupid to use a trick that worked before again like suntzu said?
                                                            did lelouch trick everyone to think he died while he escaped?....if not so then how is he alive again in season 3?

                                                            Jake Zyrus

                                                              @cockie lover
                                                              Was my 3 item to defeat the 3 heroes viable?

                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                Arc warden is 99th is popularity. I barely know what his skills do much less the item build for him. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you just finish his standard build.

                                                                1. Necrophos
                                                                2. Meepo
                                                                3. Storm spirit

                                                                All three have magic dmg and can kill you without bkb but I think that's a mistake to go bkb cus it sucks on arc. Arc is about maximizing dps and using his image. Dps gains on arc are basically doubled cus of his image.

                                                                Manta also seems a trap, manta will drop storm spirits orchid silence but again it's a pisspoor dps item.

                                                                So I think you just finish mjollnir, get silver edge, maybe pike, bloodthorn. You are farming, pushing and avoiding fights until you have a big item advantage and heroes who will cc those guys for you.

                                                                faw

                                                                  but bkb = dps

                                                                  Jake Zyrus

                                                                    @stan
                                                                    Depends on Kardashians point of view because kanye thinks Caitlyn jenner is a hypocrit being transwoman when he drives wearing a cap saying make america great again which obviously is trump whos anti homosexuality...

                                                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩


                                                                      Necro- orchid/diffusal dagon blink
                                                                      U know how this works

                                                                      terrible buildup, terrible synergy with the rest of your items, completely fucked by a bkb. doesn't even matter what the rest of his items will be because he countered your whole build with 1 item, rest is just raping you.


                                                                      Meepo- bkb mjolnir butterfly

                                                                      Bkb and tp(bt) escape,delay game untill other 2 items are available to fight

                                                                      this only lets you survive meepo if you already know where he is, obviously any meepo will not just show up and let you get your stuff off for free.

                                                                      considering meepo is a natural bots/blink/hex hero, you probably would've been throned before you even finish the build.

                                                                      not to mention against a good meepo your whole team's farm would've been eaten up by the opponents, as you have nothing to stop meepo from taking all your T1/T2 and then locking you in base.

                                                                      as there's nothing in your build that allows you to leave the base


                                                                      Storm- orchid manta diffusal
                                                                      U know how this works

                                                                      considering storm is a natural linkens/bkb/hex/orchid hero, there's basically nothing in your build that would help you against storm.

                                                                      out of the 10 items you suggested, even though i said 3 for each hero, i would've taken 3 and they're not even in the same hero.

                                                                      so final thoughts: 3/10

                                                                      edit: i'll figure out a new question for a different theme

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                                                                      cartel

                                                                        reading this hurt me way more than it should

                                                                        Jake Zyrus

                                                                          Bkb is just to survive the initial nuke of meepo and react accordingly
                                                                          Then u need the evasion to counter physical
                                                                          and lastly the dps item
                                                                          So now u can fight

                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                            that won't work, hex is instant, you will not be able to use bkb.

                                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                                              don't like my answer cookie?

                                                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                direwolf i'd say pretty good, but you should've given 3 separate builds. But it doesn't matter, the question was more about the train of thought that leads to the build rather than the build itself.

                                                                                And this is why i made the question, it's a very simple thing.

                                                                                lots of players can sound confident enough, but give poorly thought and mostly bad answers, but they sure will present it to look legit.

                                                                                so to the eyes of the unaware, it will look like a legit answer.

                                                                                this is why I avoid reading or watching any guides that aren't made by 5k+ players.

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                                                                                Jake Zyrus

                                                                                  A necro bkb build? for an arc warden dps hero? I think not, unless coz he knows he will get kited by two arcs

                                                                                  Dont tell me meepo will have hex before you buy ur bkb or even close to a hex, Dont tell me when he has finally one You wouldnt survive initial nuke

                                                                                  Storm will get mana burned by 5 arc wardens considering manta and diffusal while he bkbs, and he cant clear all five wardens

                                                                                  Nonetheless i rest my case...
                                                                                  You know it by experience coz ur spamming warden

                                                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                    jake zyrus, doesn't matter because he will just blink hex onto you and burst you, you will never get that bkb off even if you have it or not. meepo is one of the highest dps heroes in the game, ofc he'll rip you apart.

                                                                                    necro is a natural radiance core, dagon + blink will not serve you anything to kite him, and you wont be able to do any dps with them either.

                                                                                    storm will see your manta + diffusal and just use bkb while he's jumping on you, or he could just wait out your mantas and just instakill them with his ultimate, or he could just ult in and then ult out and you would've wasted everything to get nothing.

                                                                                    i asked you for 3 items against 3 heroes.

                                                                                    your builds would fail to survive the opponent hero, yet alone beat them.

                                                                                    You sound confident and you defend your advice, but your advice is super low quality, but you're too hot headed to admit it.

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                                                                                    Jake Zyrus

                                                                                      @cocky
                                                                                      Make your own thread asking questions you know the answer to.
                                                                                      This here is my way of giving back to players who may need my/our help

                                                                                      [Lk].Zano

                                                                                        You guys have issues.

                                                                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                          what is the point of advice if it's useful to no one or does the opposite of helping?

                                                                                          well, i'm here only to show the obvious.

                                                                                          Chiwa

                                                                                            How to get girlfriend?

                                                                                            UnSure

                                                                                              @cookie what about my answer for necro
                                                                                              I understand it probably bad just like some feed back to learn.
                                                                                              Thank you in advance.

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                                                                                              Torin

                                                                                                How to get a friend?

                                                                                                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                                  happydonut, ye, it's completely fine

                                                                                                  almost the same answer i'd give, but i'd buy the items in a different order and play it differently, you want to splitpush while i'd hunt him down like an animal.

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                                                                                                  cartel

                                                                                                    ken with the real questions here...... plz answer how get non 2d gf...should i start by removing 2d gf picture

                                                                                                    DC.MASON

                                                                                                      implying item build matters only on 1 hero when theres 4 allied heroes and 4 other enemy heroes in the game
                                                                                                      legit 6001 mmr player right here sirs

                                                                                                      oh it took less than half of a day before i forgot about the promise i made to myself
                                                                                                      welp

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