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General Discussionhow do you play an impactful support visage?

how do you play an impactful support visage? in General Discussion
Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

    feels hard to make an impact without farm, yet if he fails to acquire farm as a core he's plain dogshit.
    let the familiars deal damage and spam the stuns when you need to avoid damage or focus on landing those stuns offensively?

    snakemonger

      i dont think hes that horrible mid if you can actually play that shit on an exremely high skill level

      disgusting weebs

        ask arin!

        disgusting weebs

          oh wait u said impactful

          Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

            So, uhh, paging impactful visage players I guess?

            Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

              Ah wait, 1.4% pickrate -_-

              DC.MASON

                I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.

                Cheap Laugh Guy

                  Visage sucks

                  Perte

                    With core visage your farm is enemy heroes and it has 2 beautiful talents at lvl 10 that gives you either %30 exp or 90 gpm that goes even better with midas so you can be 6 slotted as fast as a normal midder maybe even faster. Watch my replays for tips

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                    Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                      So, midas first? Choice of boots? How to keep your familiars from dying to thr likes of sven, kunkka etc?

                      pACCINO

                        Good micro, git gud :)

                        DC.MASON

                          +30% exp talent is better

                          also i don't think i've seen a weirder skill build than in your last visage game

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                          Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                            The skill build I followed was from some random visage player I checked out on the dotabuff page for the hero. It was for mid visage tho

                            Rocket

                              Played him for the first time in a while yesterday. Goddamn the birds are squishy now. Regularly one-shotted.

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                              Väinämöinen

                                landing the stuns is more important. and you dont need much farm as visage supp.

                                TripleSteal-

                                  i dont think u need to have decent micro skills to be efficient with the hero, unlike chen/meepo
                                  u just hope not to get to play against the heroes that one shot all ur birds, get a medallion, and kick some asses

                                  Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                                    Thats exactly what i try to do since im shit at microing birds

                                    Väinämöinen

                                      all you need to do is press

                                      tab, q, tab, q, tab and use hero skills. whats hard about that

                                      MILNOR

                                        just ks and report your team when you lose.

                                        Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                                          @thanks you forgot that you actually need to land those stuns like a daggerless centaur at 200 ping

                                          Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                                            And bursting down a support at less than 3 secs with just medallion is easier than spending your sweet time positioning your birds and spacing out the stuns decently

                                            DISCONNECTED™

                                              been playing visage in various bracket: 1, 2, 3, & 4k mmr. as a supp, visage dont need to be greedy in gold. all you need is exp. visage only need boots, medalion/crest and aghs. after that, you can try various item build. ofc if you face with for ex: qop or am atos is the prefect item to rush on visage. his true potential unlocked when you reach lv 6 with familiar. positioning and micro skill is the key to play visage in teamfight. once you hit lv 10 both of his talent is good. just pick it depanding on the situation. every person have his own playstyle, but in general all you need is exp. not gold. timing your stun properly and find prefect position for hero and familiar before temfight and in the middle of teamfight, then you r good to go.

                                              Shou

                                                visage is a greedy support, he shud be played pos 4, its rlly hard to go solo support slave with visage having only boots wand and buying wards the whole game, cuz u kinda need items in order to have an impact.
                                                at least a medallion if not more.

                                                DC.MASON

                                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/players/119180054
                                                  he doesn't play visage much recently though.

                                                  polo

                                                    You don't need to farm with Visage a lot to get strong, you only need levels and 3 items:
                                                    - Boots of Travel - so you will be able to push, defend and gank quickly;
                                                    - Solar Crest - so you can kill the enemies by only using your familiars + W;
                                                    - Aghanim's Scepter - extra familiar = extra stun + DPS (very helpful);
                                                    If the enemy team has heroes that escape with abilities (Anti-Mage, Storm Spirit, etc..) i wouldn't pick Visage but if i did for some reason i'd make an Orchid and if the enemy team has cancer heroes like Riki i'd make a gem or keep dust in me always.

                                                    To get this, GO MID and tell your teammates that you know what you are doing because if you go any other lane you won't get high XPM, also when you have Solar Crest and Boots of Travel KILL EVERYBODY!

                                                    polo

                                                      Also i am at 1k mmr, so it may be easier for me.
                                                      Edit: i just calibrated party mmr to 700

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                                                      DC.MASON

                                                        lol

                                                        Aethoeix

                                                          Is rod of atos still good on him?
                                                          Recently started to play visage and want to try to spam it as pos 5

                                                          cartel

                                                            Position4 -tranquils->midas->atos->crest->win.....
                                                            literally never change ur item build unless against a slark or some asshole that keeps jumping you you can go for one defensive item otherwise you are just wasting your midgame power spike pnce you hit six just gank a lane if u couldnt kill anyone then just take the tower....keep the familiars hidden and once you see a big aoe nuke used or smthn that will one shot them you can bring them out to deal the damage then stun somebody....... dont farm on the hero with the hero farm with the familiars as long as summon familiars is off cooldown u gotta keep the birds away from you to fully utilise their potential.... push lanes and stack ancients with them ..... once u see a team fight happening u get there and stay the fuck back ....onceu get ur charges for soul assumptions go in cast it on the squishiest target then rinse and repeat. .. dont pick the hero unless theres already another support

                                                            cartel

                                                              I played the hero alot before 7.00 ....the fact that they removed spell immunity on familiars made him a shitton weaker

                                                              Pilot

                                                                Visage is super useful in shutting down enemy supports. (Take note of that)

                                                                Emon

                                                                  kill their squishy backline that's how you dop shit

                                                                  TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                                                    you destroy the enemy ancient